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Recreating the spark
the other day i 'jammed' together a little ditty at work on my iphone. not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination but there's potential in it.
i just tried to recreate it on my ipad using exactly the same apps but its just not the same 
the timing and structure on the origianl iphone version are all over but i just cant recreate the... 'feel' !?? weird 
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Maybe this is a more clinical response than you were hoping for (haha), but, if I were in the same position, I'd assume that the difference is somewhere in the EQ, even if it isn't in the instruments, in general. It's something easy to overlook, but there's a reason that some songs that seem so rich and inspiring, in the headphones, sound sort of blase when you're listening to the CD, in the car. I used to hear music over the PA at work, sometimes, and think, "Wow, this song is awesome!," and then look it up when I got home to find out that it was dull, and vice-versa, too; some tracks over the PA sound totally bland, but, when you hear them through a different system, you can see the genius.
Could be as simple as ya needing more bass! Haha. It's hard to get inspired when you're not interested in how what you're making "sounds," and the opposite is true, too; could be making something really quite simple, in the grand scheme of things, but if you like how it sounds, it isn't hard to get really into it.
Good luck, sah!
I hear what you are saying, kinda like back in my clubbing days I'd hear a tune in the club and pick it up.... At home on the hifi it'd (obviously) sound totally different and I'd wonder if it was actually the same track
But no, this is different. Thing is, the original is so "all over the place" it doesn't sound right either ...there's Just something about it
Well let's hear it, mun! Now you've got me curious, haha -- that is, if you're comfortable sharing something so rough. We could do comparisons of the original concept and the reconstructed concept. @_@ For science.
I've always found it tough to recreate something, especially after I've spent some time with the original. And, yeah, it usually boils down to the original having a vibe that I can never seem to duplicate in the recreation. So, don't know what to tell you, except that this is the reason the "demo" so often ends up being the final release.
You could try bouncing each part to audio and importing them into your iPad DAW.. That should keep the feel.
This phenomena is the reason I try to make my demos as CLOSE to the way I want the finished master to sound as possible.
Let's say you get a great demo and then spend hours in a project/pro studio paying money to recreate that demos "feel" or sound...seems pretty ass backwards. Getting a great demo (at least on the basic tracks like drums, rhythm guitar & bass) is a good insurance policy. Additionally you can cherry pick elements out of a demo to inspire the finished track...you get a cool d,rum track or other element on the demo you just import it into the new recording.
Another thing re: Demos: Well produced demos also help
show band members, or people you're showing your work to the complete picture of what you want the song/track to be. To me playing someone a piano/vocal or acoustic guitar/vocal demo of a song and saying "Here's where the bass would come in...there'll be some Rhodes piano here...okay picture some percussion starting in now." just isn't as effective.
Is it timing, did you record a performance on your iphone, and are now trying to 'program' the notes you previously recorded ? When programming they will more than likely be quantised.
good point there !
apart from drums and 1 sequence line its played manually. some of the playing is beyond being quantised
This seems like a case for the notorious (artistic) Limitations concept: great things can come from compromised circumstances.
"At work" and "on iPhone" both suggest non-ideal Studio settings but like you I've found that my rushed sessions in a parked car with tiny iPhone produce results I just don't seem to come up with on iPad or full blown computer in studio.
The one thing I'm trying to learn and re-learn myself: if you make something and it moves you there's a very good chance it'll move others and maybe the issue here is almost one of Pride: we assume that if it's a "doodle" it must be cleaned up or redrawn when in fact the doodle IS the Thing.
Absolutely. Another good reason when 'at work' or 'on iPhone' to doodle more...