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the state of the art in going back and forth with desktop DAWs?
I'm getting ready to embark on a project and I need to go back and forth easily between my iPad Air 2 and my iMac desktop. I want to be able to send MIDI back and forth between the 2 as well as audio. I want to be able to play my MIDI keyboard and have it trigger sounds on my iPad and have that shuffled to my desktop DAW and likewise, I want to play MIDI instruments with my iPad and have the MIDI trigger the soft synth in my DAW.
I would love to get input on the best, most efficient way to do this. I do have a iConnectMIDI2+, however, if Studiomux is more immediate or better overall, I'm willing to go that route.
thank you!
Greg K.
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The downside of iConnect stuff is that it got just a coupled stereo in/out. If you need more you should look into usb interfaces or studiomux, musicIO or audreIO
That's not true: re: iconnect. IF the app supports it, it will support up to 10 i/o I believe (I've used 4 or 5 at a time) don't recall what the max is. This is the iconnectuadio4+ Studiomux is also very impressive. Load up your generators in the app like audiobus, and you can select each channel/instrument as an output in mac. Because it's pure software, I've found the performance to be a little less reliable than the iconnect at times, but is there really a difference (or should there be) between:
1) connect ipad by lightning to box > box to imac
2) connect ipad by lightning to imac
option 2 should introduce less opportunity for error.
either way, your daw has to give you the outputs into something else (either routable via iconnect or studiomux) for it to matter. Otherwise, you're exporting your stems and importing them into your DAW.
Btw, which DAW?
At the moment, I use Live and Bitwig
I have Ableton Live - your mileage may vary depending on your DAW.
I have both iconnectmidi2 and studiomux. I find studiomux a little easier to navigate than iconnectmidi. With the iconnectmidi I regularly have to reconfigure the MIDI routing, which is not the most intuitive or well documented feature IMO. Routing MIDI back and forth in studiomux is straightforward. Getting audio from the ipad to the computer is also very straightforward - it's a simple as loading a VST into the DAW.
What DAW do you have? If it's Ableton Live, the Gadget/Ableton Live combination is another brilliant way to connect ios with a computer DAW. You can simply export audio clips and MIDI and it imports beautifully into Ableton Live.
For live - check out gadget. It exports to live directly. What that means is it renders each loop to audio and populates a track in the session view with all of the scenes stacked. Great workflow for a lot. Not a complete solution to what you're looking for. I really think you should check out the iconnect 4+ or wait for the 2+ the way you want to be able to bounce back and forth with control and audio in and out, My setup is a MBP with an iconnect, that has a midiboard hooked up. I plug in my ipad and can use mac softsynths to record audio into Auria pro, or ios synths into live with just a couple of taps. My master keyboard will control both at the same time if I so choose. Studiomux is far more reliable for the ios > osx then to get audio from osx > ios in my experience, whereas the class compliant hardware will treat the virtual outs from your mac just like any other input into an interface.
Thank you! Yes, I use Ableton Live 9 and Bitwig. Thanks for your input...!
Thank you! I'm not sure what you mean wait for the 2+ though. I already have the iConnectMIDI2+...
@gkillmaster the other thing I like about studiomux versus iconnectmidi2 is that with studiomux you're not forced to use the asio4all driver. The asio driver for my (PCI) soundcard has much less latency than asio4all, so that's another in the plus column for studiomux in my book.
I'm on mac so I don't have to worry about that...
@gkillmaster http://www.iconnectivity.com/products/audio/iConnectAUDIO2plus this one. Fewer ins / outs.
The iconnectaudio and iconnectmidi are obviously different products since the audio allows you to send audio both back and forth in addition to midi but also to actually use it like an interface and plug things into it.
@ecamburn I use the coreaudio drivers on my mac with the iconnectaudio4+ I prefer to use them since I also have a focusrite saffire that I can bounce back and forth from and to in live. I just checked, asio4all is not installed on my mbp.
@khidr9 maybe they've changed it, but with the iconnectmidi2, you've had to use asio4all in the past. Maybe the 4 is different.
Oh just saw @gkillmaster's post - looks like asio4all is a windows thing.
@ecamburn probably. It may be an iconnectMIDI with its passthrough vs. iconnectAUDIO with it's hardware interface thing too? I actually wasn't aware you could route audio back and forth with the midi only units. That's pretty nifty.
@khidr9 . Yeah, the 2s have "audio pass through" which allows you to pass audio through the USB connection to the computer.
studiomux works amazingly well! thanks everbody!
fyi, the studiomux dev also has an Abelton Live controller app that looks pretty slick. I only mention it since you're using Live.
O yeh, thanks. I think I have it but forgot about that connection!