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Thanks everyone. Like most things music, a lot to chew over
So I’m looking for a stereo mic field recorder. For your basic summer night/city life type ambient recordings. Personal recommendations from friends led me to the Zoom H4n, but I was looking over this thread and the ixy mic has me teetering on the edge of that given the lightning plug capability. It’s been 3 years so for any regular users, any updates in this world?
i did a somewhat thorough search recently, and nothing notable came up, outside the ones mentioned here already and what a search engine would give you. In general, my take is that anything under, i dunno, 700€ is not that different: to sense a difference, you'd require dedicated microphones and recorder, which total in the thousands.
Sure, the preamps differ, some are noisier than others, but for my own purposes (sound design for indie films, video artists, radio etc.), I'm happy with a 100€ shure mic on my iphone 95% of the time. You really need to be doing something super specific (like a surround sound installation with high-end speakers) for the recording equipment to play a big role.
I'm not posing this as some final truth, simply my experience, is all. After 15+ years working professionally with sound, I just try to be realistic of the end product and listening situation and not drive myself crazy searching for the most optimal recorder.
@syrupcore, @Fruitbat1919 : Slightly left field, already mentioned above: I was a long time Android phone user, but I recently bought a refurbed iPhone 6S ( the sweet spot - the last IPhone with a headphone socket, that also runs iOS 13), for £140 from musicmagpie, to address this exact issue, as a fiend for field recording. I have a pair of irig Lavaliers in the little pouch they come in with me at all times, on the basis that field recording is like photography - the best gear is the gear you have with you, and the lavs are tiny. I hook the Lavs to my earbuds for instant binaural recording. I always have my phone with me, and the Lavaliers are tiny. Recently got proof of concept, walking past a church when the bells started ringing. Hadn’t planned it, but hey, had the phone, and AudioShare (great as a direct recorder), 30 seconds to whip out the Lavaliers and I was good to go. Best of all, when I got home, just airdropped the samples onto my ‘studio’ iPad. It really, really works...and no computers involved.
I have an iXY. It used to work fine with my iPhone 6, but the removal of the headphone jack effectively means you can't monitor while recording any more - which kind of kills it as a serious field recorder in my view.
Also, and I haven't put any serious time into troubleshooting it, the last time I tried to use it the app didn't work in IOS 13.
It's a real pity - the mic itself is tiny, and of pretty good quality, but it's crippled by bad support and hardware limitations.
@oat_phipps : this is why I went with the 6S, which has a headphone socket, and the irig lavs, which you can chain your earbuds into so you have zero latency monitoring as you record.
I would strongly recommend the Sennheiser AMBEO headset: it's got an Apogee pre-amp that is very low in noise and does amazing stereo atmospheric field recordings. I got mine new in the box for £65 on Ebay which was probably a very lucky deal, but they seem to come up pretty regularly on Ebay at very good prices.
I'll see if I can post a sample from it.
Been using the Zoom iQ7 for three years now and I don't find it more noisy than the other similar-sized stereo mics in this class. It's very good at picking up more distant sounds so if you're going record sounds in nature or just lectures in a large room, these work well.
My go-to app for recording with it has always been TwistedWave because it's simply the most reliable on the phone.
The stereo effect is even more real with in-ear microphones (if you listen to the recordings with headphones) but these are always more noisy.
These look good! Never seen them before. Do you have other portable stereo microphones or field recorders to compare the noise floor to?
I have a Zoom iQ6 which is way noisier, and a Shure MV51 which is also noisier when the gain is cranked up.
A couple of samples from the Sennheiser AMBEO:
Bird song
Waves on the beach
Best to listen with headphones to get a feel for the stereo field.
You can get the Zoom H6 from Amazon UK and spread the cost over five instalments.
Just to be certain, is this what you are recommending? Because I’m sold based on the recordings. I’d much rather have an iPhone accessory than to have to carry another unit around.
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-AMBEO-Smart-Headset-iOS/dp/B0744PC5J8/ref=asc_df_B0744PC5J8/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312026001792&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2425665307336970595&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9025890&hvtargid=aud-864832253277:pla-450898583753&psc=1
Yes, that's exactly it.
I still use the ixy myself now and then, but these days I record directly into AudioShare with it. I recently got a zoom h4n pro though, and aside from the largish size I've been really happy with it. For me one of the benefits of the zoom was the inputs so I could record my groovebox jams when outside and away from power.
Bird song with footsteps and dogs barking ...
These sound quite nice for 'atmos' tracks. The stereo effect works fine on normal monitors. Probably a bit indiscriminate for individual samples.
Where are the birds? Sounds a bit Australian, although I'm not familiar with US birds.
Yeah where I live you can't avoid noise pollution, so there's always traffic rumbling in the distance, planes overhead and if I'm recording waves on the beach there's always a boat or two somewhere nearby... Maybe if I got up at 5am I might get less of that stuff, but I haven't gone to those lengths yet
The birds are parakeets, which are not native to the UK but have invaded London and most of the South East:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_parakeets_in_Great_Britain
One of the reasons I don't miss being a location sound recordist. Clean effects recording is hard - and producers never believe you when you try and explain why it took so long to get what you need.
I've had the LS-11 for many years and love it. Never a single regret.