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If you buy Amplitube Acoutstic on sale for $7.99, the IAPs are only $100!
That's ridiculous.
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I didn't get it: are you saying that if you buy the app on sale, the IAP prices are higher than the regulat ones?
The Amplitube apps are pretty expensive. I have full ToneStack and Ampkit. Then Bias Amp and Jamup Pro. Think they will do me
I'm saying that if you buy all the IAPs, it will cost you $98.
lord, i'm hoping that's "regular" price.
agreed
I get what I need from Bias Amp/FX and JamUp.
You'd pretty much have to do a complete side by side comparison, between what is available in Amplitube as IAPs, vs. the other platforms. I'm using Bias FX and Amp, and I'm not quite sure what buying everything in the two of them would cost, but I imagine it would be pretty comparable to Amplitube.
I like a lot of Amplitube's sound, but I'm not big on the interface, and I have never understood the marketing model of having Slash's stuff, or Fender's stuff, or Orange's stuff. But IK Multimedia makes good products; I have never understood the dislike that seems to attributed to them here.
Truth be told, would not get many pedals or amps at any of these prices
This^
True, back in the day when all I I had was my little Fender tube amp, I would have likely thought getting three amps and six pedals for $7.99 would have been nice.
And I think the $98 involves adding together a number of things that are also included with the 'all' bundles. And since the Motherload on ToneStack (which I own and really like) is normally $69, and Bias/Jamup likely cost me even more, I don't see how this is all that unusual price wise.
This, and let me share my perceptions about a thread I notice that is growing since the past few months (disclaimer: wall of text): the kind of complaints over expensive apps changed subtly but steadily from the usual rants about "free" or "lite" apps that are completely useless unless you buy some IAPs or upgrade to a "full" version, usually expensive enough to scare off most casual users, to a most ideological take against expensive apps in general, being iOS only the current battle field.
These more ideology-based folks usually have more complex arguments, of the kind the could be read in any "copyleft" or "FOSS" website, and aim their criticism not on a pontual target but on more abstract ones ("the developers", "the large software companies" etc), using sometimes shaming tactics ("greedy developers" etc) and sometimes also FUD rhetorical tricks ("pay cash to be beta testers", "no guarantee the app will continue to be supported" etc).
Let me address this in a blunt, candid manner: yes, as the iPad grows more powerful and iOS leans closer to a real OS, some developers and companies will make more complex applications, apt for critical tasks, and as a result more professionals who need complex apps for critical tasks will rely on iOS as a primary platform, creating a market niche. As a necessary byproduct of this, a plethora of software that will cost as much as their Desktop counterparts will pop here and there, and that will be good for the iOS ecosystem as a whole.
The "expensive" prices of Desktop are not that way without a reason: they cost what they cost because there is a niche of users that are willing to pay a premium for high-end applications that make easier for them to work reliably on a high level and to make profit. To offer this kind of high-end applications, developers and companies usually invest lots of time, effort, money and take risks and make sometimes delicate business decisions. If they don't have an incentive for doing so, e.g.: getting rich or making huge profits, these kind of high-end applications will simply not going to happen. How many high-end Linux apps exist for audio? I can think only of Ardour, which lags far far far far behind the competition and have little to no plug-in support, no customer support etc.
That is the reason, not capitalist greed, or lack of serious competition, or some conspiracy between Microsoft and Apple and Avid against poor and defenseless users. Also, contrary to the common myth, it's not piracy in the Desktop ecosystem that forces prices upwards - and btw this is commonly used as circular reasoning ("if software wasn't that expensive, piracy wouldn't thrive). But piracy did force companies to rely on dongles and sandboxing and, more recently, yearly subscriptions, which is bad for everyone, and all the fault is solely at the hands of the pirates and freeloaders.
I for myself use Auria Pro for not only for making my music (where I usually spend money), but also to make recording sessions, live gig sessions and music production work (where I usually make money) with gear that fits nicely in a backpack, and don't find it expensive at all, given the return I already had, and the whole new market it opened for me. If it's expensive for you, perhaps you don't have really the need for it, so to each their own.
I dream with more premium and professional apps on iOS; for NI, Propellerhead, Apple and Waves to come all in, and if they offer something I can turn to profit for myself and fits in my budget, they will have my money.
The casual users will continue to have access to inexpensive apps, and the more creative among them will get results as good or even better than pros with expensive tools, and that is because some people are blessed with unusual and outstanding talent; they are exceptional, a very small minority. For vast majority, the inexpensive toys will continue to be inexpensive toys, and will not replace or erase the need for complex software that will cost much more.
It is ridiculous because it isn't accurate. If you purchase the $7.99 version (instead of downloading the free version), you are left at this time with the option to purchase the following IAP to have additional functionality that you may or may not want (which is why these are offered as IAP, they are not critical to ):
Looper $7.99
UltraTuner $7.99
Recorder + Studio $21.99
Loop Drummer All Style Packs 1 & 2: $19.99
That adds up to $57.96... and it is all optional, so you can pay for what you need on top of the amps and stomps that come with the app for the $7.99 you can pay (and have a fully-working acoustic guitar app without the additional optional IAPs).
That's perfectly reasonable.
EDIT.: quote my whole post by mistake!
I have to say, I actually rather appreciate apps that break down features into IAP's. I can't tell you how many apps I've downloaded that I only need for a couple of key features or one sound but I end up paying for it all. I like the ability to pick and choose as much or as little as I need, I end up saving money this way. In the above example I would not need recorder and studio, the loop drummer, or the tuner which would save someone like me around $50. At the same time if I did need, lets say a tuner, I wouldn't need to download an additional app to get it, thus streamlining my iOS setup.
@theconnactic
Thanks for the wall of text.
+1 to what @mptrin said
I don't know why Ik gets so much hate. I have all the apps from JamUp Pro and Bias to ToneStack with Motherload 2.0. Amplitube wins hands down for me.
£43.46 sounds even better! But, HOLD ON, that's $61.93. So an extra $3.97 if you live in the UK? So...er...think yourself lucky.
Maybe someone should edit the header............???
Well written, I agree.
Just for informational purposes, and as I noticed this the other week myself, Bitwig is available for Linux. I didn't know, now I do.
Professional tools live in a completely different price range from the hobbyist and semi pro even if they accomplish the same task: why does a Makita screw driver cost up to 10 times a black&decker? Because if you use the black&decker in a professional job it will screw up in a month(pun almost intended) and a professional has got no time to go get another one in the middle of a job or to test several cheap brands before he finds one that works fine: a professional, as long as he is making some profit, looks for reliability of his tools and acknowledges that with big names, and prices, he could get a insurance of quality rather going through a hit and miss path, which will be detrimental to his career.
Nonetheless if you are working for someone else, this someone most of the time will judge your skills having a quick look at your tools rather than watching the end result. And this goes for audio world as well: many bands which are paying a recordist, most of the time won't give a shit if the recordist's home made amp header sounds heavenly, they just want a Mesa. They won't know if your self coded DAW has the most perfect sounding algos, they want you to record on Protools.
And if you are a pro you will need pro tools, not because they are better but because they are professional tools.
It's not fair but that's the way it goes.
It's the old argument that comes around and around - 'more expensive gear is undoubtedly better' (or apps in our case). I think nowadays, the difference between 'very useable' and 'top of the line' is diminishing. Some people are happy to pay for 'pro' products, but that doesn't mean that other things aren't up to the job.
Really can not be sure
