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MIDI Input Question
I'm a complete noob when it comes to MIDI stuff. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how it works but getting confused off and on.
Managed to build a little virtual midi cc controller with MidiDesigner Limited just as a learning thing to get my feet wet.
Been playing with the SoundBow app which sends out MIDI to channels 1,2,3. I've managed to find 4 of my apps that support MIDI Input so that I can set the input channel.
I'd assumed that if MIDI was supported it'd always be MIDI IN and OUT, but it looks like I was wrong.
Is there a list of decent apps that support MIDI IN so that I can set the channel?
Or, if an app doesn't support MIDI IN (doesn't have a MIDI IN setting) then can another app be used to provide the MIDI IN connection? Or, is there a way to use AUM to do this? Or, does the app have to support MIDI IN in it's settings or no go?
Sorry for the idiotic question, but this MIDI stuff is brand new to me.
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You might be best off using something like bs-16i, SoundCanvas, or SampleTank which has multi-track capability along with the ability to assign a unique midi channel per track.
If an app supports midi, it has to be midi in, out, or both.
Well, unless I'm not fully understanding the settings (quite possible) apps like Synthcaster have MIDI and you can set the channel too... but it doesn't have a separate MIDI IN setting like DRC or KQ MiniSynth or STRNG.
Strangely, Shape Synth has the setting, but I can't get SoundBow to send to it, though STRNG by the same dev works fine. Diode 108 works fine too.
Again, only if there's a MIDI IN "on" switch AND a channel selector... can I get them to work with SoundBow. Other apps that have a midi setting, but don't have the separate switch setting for midi in & channel don't work in this setup.
Midi is all over the map for iOS...some aggregate the in/out, so you can't set them independently, others are promiscuous, meaning they don't respond at the channel level and listen to midi regardless of the assigned channel. Most synths are midi in only, but not all. I don't have several of the apps you mentioned, but I recommend finding a few apps that work consistently as either midi in or out then using them to test others against. For me, Different Drummer is one of the most consistent I've found for midi out over eight tracks (these can be assigned from 1-16, as well as layered.). SoundCanvas is great as a receiver for channels 1-16. If I'm struggling with an app, I'll throw one of these in the mix to isolate the problem.
Does soundbow allow you to select a port per track or channel only?
Also, know you're not alone. Midi configuration and routing is a total mess on iOS. @Sebastian and team are aiming to fix exactly this pain point in AB3.
Also also, yes you can (often) use AUM or MIDI Flow to sort this out. Check out the channel filter in AUM's midi routing screen.
Soundbow doesn't give you any control over this. I really like this app and glad I bought it, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't buggy as hell. It's crashing a lot now, but last night it wasn't so maybe I'll reinstall.
It's hard to tell when the app is the problem or if it's your settings.
If an app doesn't have midi input settings like Synthcaster, or has a midi input switch but no way to assign channel like Nanologue... and if you need to specifically send midi coming from soundbow's 3rd color/drawing tool to midi channel 3, can you do that in AUM?
The only way I've got the midi to work using soundbow is with apps that have a specific midi input switch AND a setting to define the channel.... like DRC does.
Totally. Think we found the quote for the opening of the AB3 promo video.
Sorry, I don't own any of the apps in question. I'll try to describe what to do but dunno if it will work.
Load all three apps in AUM.
Send soundbow's MIDI to AUM.
In AUM's config go to MIDI routing.
Connect all three apps to the AUM input.
Tap on each app (still in the config screen) and you'll see midi channel settings at the bottom.
Turn off all of the channels except the one you want to go to the app on that channel.
Or something like that.
Just as a reflection: I know my midi. I also read up on Soundbow last night (due to another thread) as it had peaked my interest with the announcement of the addition of midi. However, their implementation of midi, which requires that you read instructions on their web site (http://www.binaura.net/soundbow, scroll to the bottom) made me think I will wait a bit with purchasing it still.
There is no IAA/AB and the midi seems to be intended to control other devices, but I can't see any clues of the most basic things for midi between apps on the same device (such as destination, target, channel selection etc). I think I'm saying, if you are trying to learn SoundBow, by all means dig further. If you on the other hand are trying to learn midi, picking SoundBow as your first app seems to be the equivalent of travelling to China by digging (well, I'm in Sweden). There are most probably better apps for learning midi.
Yes, I know SoundBow is a bit lacking. I love the idea of the app. And, in it's basic function mode, it's a lot of fun.
But, it's also VERY buggy when it comes to midi. I tried many things last night and some apps running with midi filtered to a specific channel were crashing SoundBow so bad that I couldn't even get it to launch at all without rebooting.
As long as you're using its core functionality, and don't have other midi stuff going on, it seems to be stable. Throw midi into the mix and you've got one Hot App Mess fo shizzle.
Hope it gets fixed and evolved more. Could be a big hit with some serious tweaking.