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New Audo interfaces from Zoom..Nice!
Looks cool!
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that does look wicked. wonder how much its going to be, or how it compares to the uac-2 that i want to get in the summer.
the guy mentioned " around 200 dollars" at the end @2:22. I am thinking thats for the u44, so the other one is going to me less one would assume..?
ive been waiting for the audiofuse for so long, that i may actually consider the u44...
i missed that part. if its the same price as the uac-2 or a bit less, then i have until june or so to decide. hehehe
https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/production-recording/audio-interfaces/u-24-handy-audio-interface
https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/production-recording/audio-interfaces/u-44-handy-audio-interface
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Prob not as good preamp as the Apogee One but it has actual audio outputs. Quality is supposed to be equivalent to the H-6.
I like the looks of this
Then I saw the MIDI ports too
u-24 will be mine, i guess
Boy, they really thought of everything with these, didn't they? These are like swiss army knives... in a good way!
The only thing that makes me pause is thinking about 1/4'' inputs going into the interface vertically. Maybe I'm just too used to the idea of inputs oriented horizontally that I can't think outside that box? Seems like it could put some strain on the cables, etc...
If it had 4 xlr ins I'd definitely consider it but I'd need a mixer in front of it to make it work with RCAs.
...however battery operation is not to be underestimated
Yes, especially on a device like this that could do double duty for field recordings, etc...
Very nice. I like my iRig Pro, it does guitar, powered mic and midi as well. But I like the headphone amp, and the ability to use it as a field recorder all by itself. Also like being able to have multiple channels in.
Yes but, Jack of all trades....
I had a look at them. They're not made out of metal but they had a nice feel.
I wonder if I would hear the difference between this and an Apogee interface?
The existing Zoom recorders often get mildly criticised for their quality, comparatively. I’m never quite sure if that’s for the preamp electronics or for the actual mic capsules they use.
I wonder if I would hear the difference between this and an Apogee interface?
The quality of the preamps and AD/DA conversion. Apogee's on another level: so much better.
Apogee's stuff is excellent, but in the late 2010's scheme of things the differences in quality is not as impressive, or appreciable as it was 15-20 years ago.
When there were still lots of analog signals, lower bit depths and sub par AD/DA conversion specs in the signal chain it was a big deal to go into a Prism converter or the state of the art stuff like today's Apogee gear.
Now today, with lots of straight DDD productions and higher specs as standard, even for entry level gear, the law of diminishing returns starts to creep in.
I am not saying there isn't a difference between a $200 Zoom interface and a $800 Apogee interface. I just think the differences are not as big as the price differential makes it appear.
It's still very big, @JRSIV : the problem is, everything is being rendered to mp3, so most people simply don't care anymore. If you listen the uncompressed result in a proper room with proper speakers, I guarantee you: the quality delta is as outstanding as the tech specs and the price range suggests.
All the best,
Dimitri.
I'm not sure how big is the difference between different devices however when audio is captured with a lower quality gear (preamps, what have you) it will be further deteriorated when compressed to MP3.
I'd say go for higher shelf gear if you can afford it.
Exactly, that's my point.
I'm thinking the new Zoom interface vs the Apogee One as to say the upper end of the Apogee Spectrum.. (Quarter, symphony, etc.).
I hate the fact that the "One "has no line outs .
I'll agree with you Dimitri, that's why I said in the end, there is totally a difference... But is it worth $600 as in my hypothetical? If money is a consideration, different deal.
The end result being an MP3 or YouTube video point you made is also right on...
That actually makes me think of my experience in my early recording days with analog PortaStudios: Because the multitrack I was using had sound quality limitations did that mean using a really good condenser mic was a waste? Of course not, as is the case today, if you can use something that's quality then of course use it.
My thought was if money is an issue, there are very good pieces of kit that are still very capable that aren't going to bust you out...like the Zoom stuff.
Zoom U-44 - 199.99
Zoom U-24 - 149.99
June 2016
In modern electronics, components such as pre-amps and AD/DA converters are not hard to build or expensive to put together. The only way I would be prepared to believe claims of vastly superior quality is via double-blind tests, because humans are just way too prone to confirmation bias.
In my experience the only components that exhibit clearly audible quality differences are transducers: speakers, headphones, and microphones. The variables are such that it's really easy to tell the difference between different brands and models.
But when it comes to electronics, in double-blind tests it's impossible even for supposed experts to tell the difference between one amplifier and another. I would be immensely surprised if anyone could really tell the difference between a pre-amp made by Apogee vs a Zoom, Focusrite, Babyface etc...
Richard, obviously your ears aren't 'golden' enough
I'd say though that there is a lot of expertise required regarding designing and manufacturing a high-end DAC chip (for example) and the board layouts needed that will give optimal performance. (I used to work in electronics)
Fair enough, if you have actual knowledge of electronics then I am happy to defer. I would imagine though that most DACs are off-the-shelf, I doubt that Apogee make their own (happy to be corrected though), and that the circuit designs are probably good enough to meet professional standards in all the main brands.
don't worry about ad/da
preamps maybe, but if you don't want to record a jazz trio with some very expensive microphone you don't care,
and if you had spend so much cash on a microphone you would buy a separate preamp for that too. So don't worry if you have no Neumann U87 or something in that category (thats a 2000€+ microphone)