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iConnectAUDIO2+ review is up - UPDATE: 2 iPads not officially supported - see discussion.

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  • MusicInclusiveMusicInclusive

    @gmslayton said:
    @MusicInclusive so essentially, I could go from the iConnectAudio2+ into a powered usb hub, then into my Mac? That way I know I am supplying adequate power to any USB midi devices.

    I think my purposed setup would be
    iPad --> iConnectAudio2+
    iConnectAudio2+ --> Powered USB Hub --> Computer
    Powered USB Hub is where I could plug in my Axiom 49, Quneo, etc and could use it with both the iPad and my Mac.

    Does that sound correct?

    I guess it might be easier to just spend $100 more and get the iConnectAudio4+ although I guess I would still need to have a hub plugged into the host port to connect multiple USB devices.

    The iCA2+ does not have a USB host port for USB MIDI devices - only the iCA4+.

    To connect USB MIDI class compliant devices you would need an iCA4+ in any case therefore.

    However, the iCA2+ can be PSU-powered instead of USB-bus-powered if you are concerned about keeping your iPad charged.

    The scenario you suggested of using a powered USB hub witha a Mac is one I have not tried.

  • ShazammShazamm

    @MusicInclusive said:
    The iConnectAUDIO2+ review is up! :smile:

    Click the link below:

    http://www.musicinclusive.com/blog/the_iconnectaudio2___a_review/

    All the images are expandable to full size if you want to see details. It'll depend on your browser how you do that: view image/open in new tab/etc.

    You review was amazing sir thanks I was leading towards the audio2+ but I will be getting the 4+

  • TheAudioDabblerTheAudioDabbler

    @MusicInclusive Thanks. I am leaning towards the 4+. The only reason for the 2+ would be for bus powered. Keeping iPad charged would be a plus but not required.

    I have a 20,000mAh usb battery that I use to power my Fast Track Duo, my Axiom 49. It would be nice to be able to power the USB hub plugged into the mac which would supply plenty of bus power for the 2+. I wonder if you could use a Barrel Connector to Usb in order to power the iConnectAudio4+ with my External Batter instead of a Wall Wart. Then then 4+ could be completely mobile.

    So many questions and not enough money to buy things and test. Sigh

  • TelefunkyTelefunky

    imho the internal power regulation of the iCA4+ is... well, frankly spoken... a bad design.
    It dissipates a tremendous amount of heat, and is likely to contribute a lot to the noise level of the preamp stages.

    The figures in the specsheet are bare nonsense as they are measured with a full scale input signal (read: a microphones that outputs 700 mV or so...) ;)
    In a real world scenario this translates to a 10dB higher noise level than an Audient ID22, though the latter is 5dB worse in printed specs.
    That said about spec sheets... >:)

    cheers, Tom

  • MusicInclusiveMusicInclusive

    ... and yet, in my level tests it showed lower noise levels and equivalent or better response in the preamps than either the 6i6 or two other interfaces @Telefunky (See an earlier article in my blog).

    So, "likely" wasn't matched by reality IME. :smile:

    I didn't have an Audient ID22 to test with however, and it may well be that that would do better.

    I agree that specs need to be read with care but to say that these are "bare nonsense" is IMO :wink: overstating the case. They are among common ways of stating pre-amp responses that manufacturers use.

    When it comes down to it, a measured response in a controlled environment by an independent third party is helpful to get a better metric. I sought to do that (although I wasn't making detailed loop response tests).

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited July 2016

    my point was't so much about the ID22 being 'better' (which is a no-brainer given the company's reputation and experience)
    The funny thing is that it had worse specs on paper, but was way ahead of the iCA4+ in recorded content.
    I fully agree that there are standard methods for measuring - and almost ALL suppliers are extremely creative to pick the one which lets their own gear shine.
    It's by no way an iConnectivity feature

    I used the 'nonsense' attribute simply because no such microphone exists...
    (though I admit according to rumors one can push an SM58 to at least half of that level with a trained voice and full screaming from a close distance)
    The regular function of a preamp is to supply gain in the range of 30-50dB.
    How useful is a measured value based on no gain applied at all ? ;)

    To be honest I've not yet been able to figure out the scaling of the instrument input.
    I have a significant amount of noise on the monitor while tracking, but the result on the file shows no such exceeding levels. It's fine indeed, so I don't mind.
    (of course I considered the particular effect that amp simulations may have in that context)

    There's nothing to complain about the iCA's audio performance given it's price tag.
    With a condensor microphone you'll hardly reach the critical region anyway.

    cheers, Tom

  • MusicInclusiveMusicInclusive

    @Telefunky said:
    my point was't so much about the ID22 being 'better' (which is a no-brainer given the company's reputation and experience)
    The funny thing is that it had worse specs on paper, but was way ahead of the iCA4+ in recorded content.
    I fully agree that there are standard methods for measuring - and almost ALL suppliers are extremely creative to pick the one which lets their own gear shine.
    It's by no way an iConnectivity feature

    I used the 'nonsense' attribute simply because no such microphone exists...
    (though I admit according to rumors one can push an SM58 to at least half of that level with a trained voice and full screaming from a close distance)
    The regular function of a preamp is to supply gain in the range of 30-50dB.
    How useful is a measured value based on no gain applied at all ? ;)

    To be honest I've not yet been able to figure out the scaling of the instrument input.
    I have a significant amount of noise on the monitor while tracking, but the result on the file shows no such exceeding levels. It's fine indeed, so I don't mind.
    (of course I considered the particular effect that amp simulations may have in that context)

    There's nothing to complain about the iCA's audio performance given it's price tag.
    With a condensor microphone you'll hardly reach the critical region anyway.

    cheers, Tom

    :+1:

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