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Virsyn synths polyphonic? Not entirely.
I bought Bebot some times ago and found out how much a synth can be played in an expressive way, really. Timbre, volume, slide and vibrato control for every single fingers, truly polyphonic. You can hear the harmonics of every notes affecting others as you move your finger just like an electric guitar.
Ok, Bebot is quite simple and owning myself a couple of synth, I knew that sound synthesis is quite advance on iPad, so I wanted to find some synth with Bebot playability with a deeper synth.
Went berserk and bought everything that had the potential to get close that. Went toward Morphwiz, Tachyon, Geosynth, Shoom, and wasn't really impressed by the harmonic response, depth and tweakability.
I read some threads and found out about this random patch button in addictive synth that I already own. Wow, very cool, I pushed it a couple of time with really interesting results. That is when I figured that velocity (y axis) could be assigned to parameters with impressive results. I read somewhere that every key can act as individual mod wheel. Ok, that is COOL!
Virsyn apps were on sale! I went Berserk, and bought pretty much all of them, Tera, Cube, MicroTera, Poseidon.
What a disappointment when I figured that the velocity is NOT polyphonic! Chords key velocity works as a whole controlled by the first key you press. SH*T!
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But, Tera, Micro Tera and Poseidon are some kick ass synths. And if ya got em on sale, then all the more better.
yes, virsyn synths don't do it individually for each key ... unlike Animoog and Nave. If this is a critical feature for you, you should check out those two
Yeah thanks @nick, already have those. OK! Nave have extensive controllability! That's great! I should have a deeper look at what I already own, instead of looking elsewhere at all the shiny new stuff.
You're right @High5denied, virsyn synths are of good value, especially on sale.
Any other synth with "complete polyphony" like Nave and Animoog?
Yeah, let's redefine polyphony for no reason!
I've noticed this is in a few "polyphonic" synths too. Where certain aspects of the signal chain seem to be paraphonic vs polyphonic.
Think for things like velocity and aftertouch, it's just a lot more complicated to make it poly when paraphonic does just fine for most use cases. Just as a non-iOS example, loads and loads of midi controllers and hardware synths support channel aftertouch but it's fairly rare to find support for polyphonic aftertouch.
When you're feeling blue, green grab a pad from Animoog, place 3 or more fingers on keyboard, slide. Love it
Well, there is always something missing: Nave has no glide option on keyboard. Only pitch band by "ear" and no scale. pfff....
I'm old (ish). Polyphonic synths used to be buying a second hand bontempi, passing it through a borrowed guitar fx pedal, twiddling the knob and pretending it was a synth!
All our actual synths were mono as that is all we could afford
As a guitar player, I am used to 6 strings, 2 hands, 10 fingers and 2 feet, all able (except 1 foot to stand on) to bring something to the musical expression.
An iPad can take advantage of 10 fingers and software, it's up to the developers to harness the power of the iPad and fingers.
I wish I could download in my head the necessary programming skills to do what I dream of!!
Well, my Korg Mono/Poly isn’t actually polyphonic in the true sense. It has four VCOs, which can be assigned to pick up four consecutive key presses. However, the env gens all gate from a key press and there’s only one VCF and VCA for the whole lot. Nice externally clock-able arpeggiator, though. The best thing about it? Using it as a four VCO monophonic synth with cross-mod and sync.
@u0421793 yes, that. now commonly referred to as 'paraphonic'. Or maybe that's an old term, I dunno. I've been messing with synths since the mid-80s but only heard that term for the first time in the last few years. The volca keys and the Moog Sub37 are two modern examples of the same—can play more than one note but the single env is retriggered on each key press and all voices share the same filter/lfo/etc.
Is the new DRC Polyphonic Synth more what you're looking for?
Ha!
Just found that not only the modulation is "single voice" but also the gliding keys, two notes can't glide at the same time.
I'm thinking refund!!
You could always use tape loops to create polyphonic voicing
Thats how many have done it in the past 
Asked my money back. Unless they make this synth a truly polyphonic multi voice synth, it's not worth what they ask for $$.
Tried to glide 2 keys at different speed and hear it glitch and jump between the 2 keys, horrible!!
Well, I tried hard to like Virsyn synths for what they do great, but man! How can that be good when the chord or bass note you play with your left hand start pitch bending when you slide a key up or down with your right hand?!
Thought first it was a bug, but they all do the same thing....
There is a Glide control right above the keyboard, and scale funtions are available from the Mod/Keys panel by selecting the ribbon controller. The panel will reveal chord functions. May have to adjust the envelopes for proper glide but its there. My favorite synth
Have you played a polyphonic hardware synth? There are very few that do what you are describing.
A few come to mind: CS-80, Ensoniq, etc. Things like polyphonic aftertouch are a particular additional aspect of polyphony that isn't supported by most things out there that synth apps like the Virsyn series - at least in style, not content - are modeled on.
Polyphony, simply put, allows you to play multiple notes at once. (How it's implemented - duophonic, paraphonic, multi-timbral, multiple voices etc. - is another issue as others have noted.)
Yes, some synth apps allow various kinds of extra expression, like aftertouch, polyphonic aftertouch, velocity sensitivity, etc. but not all features are found in all hardware, VSTs/AUs or apps that are actually polyphonic nonetheless.
You might find @Philippe that you're disappointed in a good many iPad apps if you expect them to support additional things over and above basic polyphony , e.g., to be able to hold a bass note and glide other notes at the same time. A few do such things, and do them well. Many (IME most) do not - but that doesn't make them bad synths IMO
The Virsyn series of apps is great for what each synth offers. They are definitely polyphonic in that they are not monophonic. I like them a lot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphony_and_monophony_in_instruments
I...just got edge-u-ma-cated..........Thanks!
Thanks for the post @MusicInclusive. You are right. Polyphony is not the issu with Virsyn synths (I took a look at the wiki page thanks!) And yes, you are right that I my disappointment comes from my feature expectations. I start to understand that what I am looking for is an extra feature that most synth don't do unfortunately.
In hardware perspective, I can easily understand that wha I ask for would be the equivalent of having a complete synth running per finger. But in software, with the actual processing power available, I imagined that more synth would do the trick, especially virsyn that is quite known. I wonder if the PC VST counter part does what I want?!
I still think that the bar should be raised. After all 2$ Bebot does it. Animoog does it, Nave...
I still wonder how it is called. Multi-voice? Multi-timbral? Every key going through it's own enveloppe/modulation controlled by it's own velocity/pitch bend.
Virsyn synths notes or group of notes enveloppe is reseted as soon as an other note is pressed. It kind of kill the previous played notes. Would it be that they are not multi-voice? It seems to be the case.
I can stick to Bebot and Animoog, and Shoom(more exploration required to find good leads).
2 questions:
-Does animoog presets pack sounds different from basic pack? I might consider them if that's the case. Animoog basic presets have imho all this same "animoog timbre".
-Does Z3Ta+ have multi-voices multi-timbre polyphony with individual pitch bend, and velocity assignable to parameter modulation?
I've been experimenting with Shoom. It does do a lot of what you want. However, I agree that it takes work to create the patches that have depth to them. One of the key tricks to doing that for Shoom is setting different octaves and intervals for the oscillators for one of the synths (for example to get a sub-bass). One can get some very growly sounds out of it that way.
If you ever get around to sharing one or two of your creations I'd love to hear them/play them...
This multi-voice polyphony can be found in most of the synth that allow single independent key sliding/pitch bend at the keyboard level (not mod wheel or pitch wheel), which make me think that Virsyn synths may have an issu in the internal sound routing, who knows?!
Among the synth that have it: Bebot, Animoog, Nave, Morphwiz, Tachion, Geo Synth, probably Geoshred, Shoom, Ondes, Wavemapper, SynthX, Fretless brass (and whole fretless serie I'm pretty sure), Thumbjam, Noise, to TC-11,
and I am sure that there are a lot more.
I sent a message to developpers, and I hope that these guys are getting the message
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To be honest I couldn't care , what Virsyn synths do far outweighs what they don't , especially when they only cost a few quid lol
I suppose it's the difference between what we grew up with and our current expectations. I remember Ensoniq keyboards with Poly Aftertouch. People thought it would take off and never did