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LINK: Official Impact Study Thread

  1. LINK has:
    a. greatly enhanced my work! :D
    b. diminished my work ... :(
    c. no effect on your work :/

  2. How so?

  3. What is currently your most used synth(1 please) app?

  4. Has that remained the same since before LINK?

  5. What is your currently most used drum app(1 please)?

  6. Has that remained the same since LINK?

  7. What is your currently most used DAW?

  8. Has that remained the same since LINK?

  9. Is there an app or company that you now use more because of LINK? What are they?

  10. Is an app having LINK a deal breaker for buying it?

THANKS

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  • edited April 2016
    1. c

    2. these days I am not jamming like the old days (three months ago) and just record a track at a time into a daw, i played with link for a bit and found the setup for recording was convoluted and stuff i recorded was reeeealy long for sifting through in a DAW and there was too much jumping app to app and screen to screen. Now I shoot for shorter bits of a couple minutes max, although I did have a nice long Elastic Drums jam the other day after the new update, so I think I just like all in one app jams (if/when that I likely do go back to jamming), easier to manage. Can't wait for Skram to suport multi instrument separate track recording. I may try multiapp jamming again with Link in Aum once I cash in this 100$ gift card. I just need a few more apps on the list to justify it because if I cash in the gift card now then it will get used up on the AppleTV (because it is foolishly on the same account) and not on music apps. Then again I find IAA and Modstep, while a bit flakey (because of IAA I imagine) just fine really for what i do so maybe why bother with Aum because the new Modstep update lets me stack effects. I doubt Aum would give me much more.

    What was the question again?

    1. Shoom (two weeks ago it was SKRAM, three weeks ago ANIMOOG, etc (preset patch tweaker here))

    2. no

    3. Funk Drummer (last week PATTERNING, week before EGOIST etc)

    4. no

    5. Cubasis today, Auria yesterday (is Modstep a daw? etc)

    6. no

    7. no

    8. Thought it might be a reason to want to buy one but it has no influence now either way

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Official eh :p

    Unlike some, I respect the law.

  • edited April 2016

    It's a little early for that
    Wait until 80 apps support link
    We just hit 50 these days
    https://audiob.us/apps/capability/link

    Then we'll know more

  • edited April 2016
    LINK has:
    
    1. c. no effect on your work - yet. I haven't used it for anything
    2. How so? - I haven't had a need for syncing things the way LINK provides. I don't write / compose / play / record that way normally. I might change that as I think about LINK more.
    3. What is currently your most used synth(1 please) app? - There isn't just one. So, sorry, :smile: but: Animoog, iMS-20, iMini, iSEM, iVCS3, Alchemy, Z3TA+, Addictive, Sunrizer, Tera, Cube, microTERA, TF7, iM1, Thumbjam, others.
    4. Has that remained the same since before LINK? - Yes.
    5. What is your currently most used drum app(1 please)? - DrumStudio, followed by DrumPerfect / Pro.
    6. Has that remained the same since LINK? - Yes.
    7. What is your currently most used DAW? - Auria Pro
    8. Has that remained the same since LINK? - Irrelevant. It used to be Cubasis, (I used to use both), but now I'm using Auria Pro more. The fact it doesn't yet have LINK does not yet impact me.
    9. Is there an app or company that you now use more because of LINK? What are they? - Nope
    10. Is an app having LINK a deal breaker for buying it? - Nope.
  • @AudioGus said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Official eh :p

    Unlike some, I respect the law.

  • @u0421793 said:

    Comedy genius

  • @MusicInclusive said:
    LINK has:

    1. c. no effect on your work - yet. I haven't used it for anything
    2. How so? - I haven't had a need for syncing things the way LINK provides. I don't write / compose / play / record that way normally. I might change that as I think about LINK more.
    3. What is currently your most used synth(1 please) app? - There isn't just one. So, sorry, :smile: but: Animoog, iMS-20, iMini, iSEM, iVCS3, Alchemy, Z3TA+, Addictive, Sunrizer, Tera, Cube, microTERA, TF7, iM1, Thumbjam, others.
    4. Has that remained the same since before LINK? - Yes.
    5. What is your currently most used drum app(1 please)? - DrumStudio, followed by DrumPerfect / Pro.
    6. Has that remained the same since LINK? - Yes.
    7. What is your currently most used DAW? - Auria Pro
    8. Has that remained the same since LINK? - Irrelevant. It used to be Cubasis, (I used to use both), but now I'm using Auria Pro more. The fact it doesn't yet have LINK does not yet impact me.
    9. Is there an app or company that you now use more because of LINK? What are they? - Nope
    10. Is an app having LINK a deal breaker for buying it? - Nope.

    Thank you

  • @lala said:
    It's a little early for that
    Wait until 80 apps support link
    We just hit 50 these days
    https://audiob.us/apps/capability/link

    Then we'll know more

    That in fact is the idea.

    Trajectory.

    You don't give samples of a cookie to 49 people and then ask only the 51st person onward their opinion.

    You want to see what direction if any you should do with the formula.

    No?

    Anyway, I enjoy you Apefilter presets.

  • @RustiK said:

    Oh man I always loved that track :smile:

  • Link has totally changed my live setup. We can run multiple devices with the drummer with a click track in his ear so easily. Game changer.

    1. A

    2. Because midi clock implementation on many apps is shockingly bad, with some devs seemingly not even bothered. Link helps enormously, via MidiLinkSync, with introducing my iPad into my hardware synth/drum machine set up.

    3. zMors Modular

    4. No

    5. Elastic Drums

    6. No

    7. On iOS: Cubasis, on OSX: Logic Pro X

    8. Yes

    9. Not any one company, no.

    10. Yes. Been stung by awful MIDI implementation one too many times. It's almost as if the protocol hasn't been the standard for 33 years.

    1. A. Having a lot of fun jamming with iElectribe and Ableton Live, recording loops into Live.

    At the same time I have discovered exporting loops from apps like DM1 to Dropbox, then importing those loops from Dropbox on my computer into Live.

    @RustiK said:
    1. LINK has:
    a. greatly enhanced my work! :D
    b. diminished my work ... :(
    c. no effect on your work :/

    1. How so?

    2. What is currently your most used synth(1 please) app?

    3. Has that remained the same since before LINK?

    4. What is your currently most used drum app(1 please)?

    5. Has that remained the same since LINK?

    6. What is your currently most used DAW?

    7. Has that remained the same since LINK?

    8. Is there an app or company that you now use more because of LINK? What are they?

    9. Is an app having LINK a deal breaker for buying it?

    THANKS

  • Greetings, bit about me, started playing guitar 1983/84 indie punk stuff just with mates but I got into hip hop, house and break dancing and gave it up to Dj, first with whatever I could scavenge, cassette tape and pirate radio, then onto vinyl at house party's on really shitty decks and mixers, but got my first 1210,s at about 20.The ninety,s were up and down and the technics, along with vw beetle,s and many a pretty girl were lost stolen or pawned. But music is a passion and a couple of good turns got me a gig with a show band doing weddings, bar mitzvah,s and funerals for a couple of years that set me up to go it alone and after doing the mobile disc-jockey bit for a while I blagged a pub for 10 years putting on bands and having various gear behind the bar including vestax decks, cd,j,s and ultimatley laptop,s. So ableton was obvious progression after traktor and I have enjoyed my learning curve with now being quite happy midi mapping controllers and customising them to my specific need and now not really into dj,ing at all but trying to make my own music to the best of my abilty, definatley wish I had stayed learning an instrument but the turntable was an alternative I could not resist.I bought my iPad primariy to use as a controller with live after seeing the cool kids at it and feeling like I was missing out. Sorry to have hijacked the thread but you all seem like wonderfull human beepings that I thought this as good a time as any to have opinions with a background rather than just questions and a silly name.
    So
    1 & 2 Link has sorted the horrible business of clock sync between Pc & iPad which has enhanced my work by not trying 10 makeshift ways of doing it before i start
    3 Bassline, don't know if it's really a synth but for on the fly dirty acid I havent found better (although have just discovered tweakybeat, bit naughty:) got most the synths but I always want to play them with with an arp or external controller or scenario that doesn't work
    4 patterning love it's simpicity and its playability
    5 drum jam
    6 Auria pro but more Studiomux into live on PC
    7 no more failing in auria
    8 no the nice thing about iOS is the open field and quite often the big boys stumble, and a new kid will inspire
    9 no but I think if it was just a standard thing without the ableton name like iOS clock sync or something than yes I would wonder why an app didnt have it but from what I seen in my year or so of using iOS devices for music production and dj,ing is its all early doors and playing nicely together has only just begun

     Ps  I like the iPad as extra control to my setup of knobs and sliders, I got Push 2 but can't rinse that like I can with ThumbJam
    
     Pps. I got modstep and all my experience is obsolete, I know shit
    
  • edited April 2016

    C. No effect

    Because:

    1. there's no way to stop all the apps instantaneously via a controller
    2. Most of the apps I use (Turnado, Samplr) don't have link

    The fact that there's no way to just stop all of the apps is actually a major blow for song endings. Not every song ends on a 4.4

  • @supadom said:
    C. No effect

    Because:

    1. there's no way to stop all the apps instantaneously via a controller
    2. Most of the apps I use (Turnado, Samplr) don't have link

    The fact that there's no way to just stop all of the apps is actually a major blow for song endings. Not every song ends on a 4.4

    This is why I adapted and now don't end songs. Create some transitions, change the tempo, start next tune. It's been a creative boom for me to think about "songs" in a different light.

  • I forgot to mention that Link also means that, when I upgrade to a newer iPad, I can easily still integrate my old one. Even now, thanks to Link, my creaky old iPhone 4s can be used to offload some of the duties by running Seekbeats, etc. Over the years, I could keep using the multiple devices I've stacked up, all synced, through my Mackie desk.

  • Enjoyed the introduction, @MidiDin. Good perspective

    1. a
    2. MIDI sync is definitely a pita, while Link seems to be rock solid. I don't run many apps simultaneously but I like to have them in sync (who doesn't?). I'm also a lucky bastard in that most of my essential music apps have had Link-support almost from day one, so it comes as no surprise that...
      3-4. ...my fav synth app is iVCS3 that now works in sync with....
      5-6. ..my fav beatmaking app, Patterning, around which I usually build my skteches.
      7-8. I've never used a DAW on the iPad.
    3. Loopy - that's my workaround for putting non-Linked but MIDI-syncable apps, like Samplr, in sync with the whole lot (note that Samplr IS getting a major update, including Link later this year!). Loopy (no active loops in my case, just that stable MIDI engine..), Patterning and iVCS3 play in sync via Link, Loopy also sends MIDI clock to Samplr and I'm all covered. After 'getting Linked', I find that I open Sparkle and Shape Synth more often as well.
    4. No, I don't buy any app just because it has Link, nor I decide not to buy it because it doesn't have Link. What an app can do for me is what matters.
  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    This is why I adapted and now don't end songs. Create some transitions, change the tempo, start next tune. It's been a creative boom for me to think about "songs" in a different light.

    Word. Link is perfect for bpm-transiitions during live performances.

  • This is not the official impact study, because Rustik does not work for Ableton. I don't tolerate clickbait on the Audiobus forum. This has happened over and over with Rustik and I'm therefore sinking this thread. You will still be able to coment but it won't be pushed to the top of the active threads.

  • @jooga1972 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    This is why I adapted and now don't end songs. Create some transitions, change the tempo, start next tune. It's been a creative boom for me to think about "songs" in a different light.

    Word. Link is perfect for bpm-transiitions during live performances.

    Yup. What's ironic (or maybe smart on their part) is that I've gone back to Ableton Live since they released Link because I can automate RAMP BPM using Clyphx from song to transition to song, just moving through scenes. Works brilliantly!

    Some day an iOS developer is going to figure out how to do this same "smart set list" in an app so I can leave the laptop at home. Fingers crossed!

  • A. Greatly enhanced my work.

    For me it now makes the ipad a pro device for audio because you can sync it instantly with a professional desktop DAW as well as apps on the same device. Midi sync set up is a pain and kills creative willpower.

    These days I work towards finishing my compositions in Ableton Live not on the ipad and Link gives you the ability to design your own workflow, do as much as possible on the ipad or all of it of you want. Or Jam along with Ableton live, hardware and ipad apps. Amazing possibilities.

    A global stop would be a good feature for Link although it's not a deal breaker for me. It's not designed to create finished songs with. You can take your jams and then create finished compositions in a DAW.

    If app developers added midi learn to their start stop controls then that would be all that's needed to control them all how you'd want. Plus there's lots of ways around this if you midi control your apps (the best apps hopefully have as much midi control as possible) for example Modstep is fully midi controllable and so if you are sequencing with that then you can end your tracks no problem if you are sending midi to all your apps without having to stop individual apps

    btw the way, I know this is not an official survey but thought it's a good topic to discuss ;)

  • Sorry for short answer, but Link has made for me recording in IOS a dream come true by connecting all the pieces of the puzzle and making them work together in sync.
    AudioBus is still the ultimate standard for me for audio in IOS!

  • @jooga1972 said:
    1. a
    2. MIDI sync is definitely a pita, while Link seems to be rock solid. I don't run many apps simultaneously but I like to have them in sync (who doesn't?). I'm also a lucky bastard in that most of my essential music apps have had Link-support almost from day one, so it comes as no surprise that...
    3-4. ...my fav synth app is iVCS3 that now works in sync with....
    5-6. ..my fav beatmaking app, Patterning, around which I usually build my skteches.
    7-8. I've never used a DAW on the iPad.
    9. Loopy - that's my workaround for putting non-Linked but MIDI-syncable apps, like Samplr, in sync with the whole lot (note that Samplr IS getting a major update, including Link later this year!). Loopy (no active loops in my case, just that stable MIDI engine..), Patterning and iVCS3 play in sync via Link, Loopy also sends MIDI clock to Samplr and I'm all covered. After 'getting Linked', I find that I open Sparkle and Shape Synth more often as well.
    10. No, I don't buy any app just because it has Link, nor I decide not to buy it because it doesn't have Link. What an app can do for me is what matters.

    Thanks for reply.

    I have not heard much Beatmaker lately.

    I think I may have to give a go.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @supadom said:
    C. No effect

    Because:

    1. there's no way to stop all the apps instantaneously via a controller
    2. Most of the apps I use (Turnado, Samplr) don't have link

    The fact that there's no way to just stop all of the apps is actually a major blow for song endings. Not every song ends on a 4.4

    This is why I adapted and now don't end songs. Create some transitions, change the tempo, start next tune. It's been a creative boom for me to think about "songs" in a different light.

    SO do I get this.

  • @Carnbot said:
    A. Greatly enhanced my work.

    For me it now makes the ipad a pro device for audio because you can sync it instantly with a professional desktop DAW as well as apps on the same device. Midi sync set up is a pain and kills creative willpower.

    These days I work towards finishing my compositions in Ableton Live not on the ipad and Link gives you the ability to design your own workflow, do as much as possible on the ipad or all of it of you want. Or Jam along with Ableton live, hardware and ipad apps. Amazing possibilities.

    A global stop would be a good feature for Link although it's not a deal breaker for me. It's not designed to create finished songs with. You can take your jams and then create finished compositions in a DAW.

    If app developers added midi learn to their start stop controls then that would be all that's needed to control them all how you'd want. Plus there's lots of ways around this if you midi control your apps (the best apps hopefully have as much midi control as possible) for example Modstep is fully midi controllable and so if you are sequencing with that then you can end your tracks no problem if you are sending midi to all your apps without having to stop individual apps

    btw the way, I know this is not an official survey but thought it's a good topic to discuss ;)

    de
    Thanks!

    I just like to really have a deeper understanding to enhance my own approaches and work with others.

  • @supadom said:
    C. No effect

    Because:

    1. there's no way to stop all the apps instantaneously via a controller
    2. Most of the apps I use (Turnado, Samplr) don't have link

    The fact that there's no way to just stop all of the apps is actually a major blow for song endings. Not every song ends on a 4.4

    I am trying to resist my own tendencies and put forth my own very similar "not glowing" feelings but decided to hear the positives of others.

    I am stunned that LINK is a deal breaker for some, because most of my main used apps don't have it..........

    Who knows.

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