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  • @rhcball said:

    @Halftone said:

    @rhcball said:
    Somewhat unrelated: is it possible to sync Samplr to AUM?

    Yes if you use Link to Midi app (free).

    I'll try it, I was earlier persuaded by the 'don't use with apps' warning but I will charge on ahead anyway.

    I was, at first, only using it with hardware, as per the recommendation. However, it does work well with apps too, especially Samplr.

  • @chris_foster said:
    Is IAA fundamentally broken or are Devs lacking the knowledge or motivation to implement the functionality to an acceptable standard?

    I reckon Apple should reject any app that does not correctly implement IAA...it's fundamental to making IOS a Pro level music platform.

    There are issues with IAA that Audiobus solves. One big thing is presets. Also, IAA has a bad habit of leaving zombie apps running in the background, which eat resources and can cause problems when restarting the host app.

    Rim at WaveMachine Labs has listed a few problems in the past. I'm sure there are people not coding correctly to it, but IAA is not a terribly robust protocol. AU promises to be better, but it's pretty early days. Audiobus is much stronger, and does way more.

  • @rickwaugh said:
    There are issues with IAA that Audiobus solves. One big thing is presets. Also, IAA has a bad habit of leaving zombie apps running in the background, which eat resources and can cause problems when restarting the host app.

    Rim at WaveMachine Labs has listed a few problems in the past. I'm sure there are people not coding correctly to it, but IAA is not a terribly robust protocol. AU promises to be better, but it's pretty early days. Audiobus is much stronger, and does way more.

    Thanks, just a matter of working within IAA limits I guess...maybe this latest Moog venture using Metal, will get Apple more enthused to tighten things up.

  • edited July 2016

    I have a few questions around the AUM...

    Today I read an thread on korgforums.com about an guy that using his iPad and Korg Module live on stage...
    He had wishes to split sounds from Module on his keyboard, but, today that's not possible...

    But, what I can see you have the option to make splits in AUM, is'nt that so?

    The problem seems to be that Korg Module (and also Gadget) is not IAA instruments, it's IAA generator, and can't be splits in AUM...

    Is that the differents between IAA instrument/generator?

    If I load IK Multimedias great apps iGrand Piano and iLectric Piano in two slots in AUM I can easily make keyboardsplits between that two apps... They are listed as IAA instruments...

    Is this something Korg Inc. will change in the future?

  • @rhcball said:

    @Halftone said:

    @rhcball said:
    Somewhat unrelated: is it possible to sync Samplr to AUM?

    Yes if you use Link to Midi app (free).

    I'll try it, I was earlier persuaded by the 'don't use with apps' warning but I will charge on ahead anyway.

    I find personally that MIDI Link Sync by Coding Cod does a much better job

  • @ErrkaPetti said:
    I have a few questions around the AUM...

    Today I read an thread on korgforums.com about an guy that using his iPad and Korg Module live on stage...
    He had wishes to split sounds from Module on his keyboard, but, today that's not possible...

    But, what I can see you have the option to make splits in AUM, is'nt that so?

    The problem seems to be that Korg Module (and also Gadget) is not IAA instruments, it's IAA generator, and can't be splits in AUM...

    Is that the differents between IAA instrument/generator?

    If I load IK Multimedias great apps iGrand Piano and iLectric Piano in two slots in AUM I can easily make keyboardsplits between that two apps... They are listed as IAA instruments...

    Is this something Korg Inc. will change in the future?

    Any answer on this, great music pals out there?

  • Unlike Audiobus where more of the work is done for the developers via the Audiobus SDK (it incorporates IAA as well), IAA use outside of Audiobus relies upon the developer understanding how to implement it correctly and what aspects of IAA they decide to implement. So to a significant degree, the functionality of a particular IAA setup inside an IAA host app whether it's AUM, ModStep, Auria Pro or GarageBand will be effected by how well the developer understood, chose options, and implemented IAA in their app. IAA has nothing like Audiobus state saving either.

    Not too surprisingly Audiobus can have more stable predictable behavior.

    There is also the IAA zombie behavior where IAA apps are still around after they're closed. This can often be seen when you double click the home button or open an app app and see there are virtual MIDI ports available for apps that are supposed to be closed. Audiobus can be less prone to IAA zombies due to the way they open and close apps via the Audiobus SDK. It is also easier to update an app so that it has Audiobus support versus IAA.

    Apples lack of leadership with IAA support, the more difficult IAA implementation process versus the Audiobus SDK, and how many developers have insufficient iOS development experience and are still getting up to speed results in what some would term a very frustrating dysfunctional IAA work flow or a more customized work flow where you need to keep track of and account for the IAA implementations you use with specific apps in specific hosts, their limitations, and strengths.

    Once again Audiobus provides a reliable and convenient way to see which Audiobus functionalities if any a given app currently provides. With IAA, much like MIDI iOS implementations, you have to learn the various flavors of implementation and their quirks to optimize an IAA workflow which is time taken away from using apps in a setup to create music.

    Being sufficiently happy with what I can figure out with IAA app combinations, I am willing to invest in taking the time to map out viable functionalities. The notes feature in AUM is helpful for documenting these findings so I can get the most out of the apps I use. I would rather do other things as well and definitely am of the opinion that Apple has dropped the ball and needs to support iOS developers more effectively and consistently.

  • @ErrkaPetti said:
    I have a few questions around the AUM...

    Today I read an thread on korgforums.com about an guy that using his iPad and Korg Module live on stage...
    He had wishes to split sounds from Module on his keyboard, but, today that's not possible...

    But, what I can see you have the option to make splits in AUM, is'nt that so?

    The problem seems to be that Korg Module (and also Gadget) is not IAA instruments, it's IAA generator, and can't be splits in AUM...

    Is that the differents between IAA instrument/generator?

    If I load IK Multimedias great apps iGrand Piano and iLectric Piano in two slots in AUM I can easily make keyboardsplits between that two apps... They are listed as IAA instruments...

    Is this something Korg Inc. will change in the future?

    I'm not sure if you're talking about MIDI splits of the keyboard or splits of the audio signal but I think it's MIDI. You can filter out MIDI channels in AUM but not MIDI notes or CC messages. There are apps like Midiflow that allow you to do all kinds or filtering, reroute, and send MIDI streams to different hardware or apps. Using Midiflow in conjunction with AUM can be a way to develop complex and sophisticated MIDI setups. Creating these setups maybe more than you're up for or willing to do and there may be aspects of a live performance that won't work with this as well as the limitations of how various apps implement MIDI.

  • @InfoCheck said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    I have a few questions around the AUM...

    Today I read an thread on korgforums.com about an guy that using his iPad and Korg Module live on stage...
    He had wishes to split sounds from Module on his keyboard, but, today that's not possible...

    But, what I can see you have the option to make splits in AUM, is'nt that so?

    The problem seems to be that Korg Module (and also Gadget) is not IAA instruments, it's IAA generator, and can't be splits in AUM...

    Is that the differents between IAA instrument/generator?

    If I load IK Multimedias great apps iGrand Piano and iLectric Piano in two slots in AUM I can easily make keyboardsplits between that two apps... They are listed as IAA instruments...

    Is this something Korg Inc. will change in the future?

    I'm not sure if you're talking about MIDI splits of the keyboard or splits of the audio signal but I think it's MIDI. You can filter out MIDI channels in AUM but not MIDI notes or CC messages. There are apps like Midiflow that allow you to do all kinds or filtering, reroute, and send MIDI streams to different hardware or apps. Using Midiflow in conjunction with AUM can be a way to develop complex and sophisticated MIDI setups. Creating these setups maybe more than you're up for or willing to do and there may be aspects of a live performance that won't work with this as well as the limitations of how various apps implement MIDI.

    As I can see (and mentioning earlier) you can set note ranges (splits on every instance) in AUM if they are IAA instrument, but not if it's a IAA generator...
    The ground question was; is an IAA instrument more developed than an IAA generator?

  • @ErrkaPetti said:
    As I can see (and mentioning earlier) you can set note ranges (splits on every instance) in AUM if they are IAA instrument, but not if it's a IAA generator...
    The ground question was; is an IAA instrument more developed than an IAA generator?

    This is not accurate. AUM does not set note ranges at all it filters them. It can only filter channels and notes for IAA instruments. The app or hardware sending the MIDI determines which channels are available for routing in MIDI (you can't filter out what's not sent).

    As to whether an IAA Instrument app is more developed beyond this ability of the IAA host app to route filtered MIDI to it is not specified by it's being designated an IAA instrument.

    The ability to sync to an IAA Host, the presence of transport controls, and a button to return to the IAA host are other functionalities of significance.

  • @InfoCheck said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    As I can see (and mentioning earlier) you can set note ranges (splits on every instance) in AUM if they are IAA instrument, but not if it's a IAA generator...
    The ground question was; is an IAA instrument more developed than an IAA generator?

    This is not accurate. AUM does not set note ranges at all it filters them. It can only filter channels and notes for IAA instruments. The app or hardware sending the MIDI determines which channels are available for routing in MIDI (you can't filter out what's not sent).

    As to whether an IAA Instrument app is more developed beyond this ability of the IAA host app to route filtered MIDI to it is not specified by it's being designated an IAA instrument.

    The ability to sync to an IAA Host, the presence of transport controls, and a button to return to the IAA host are other functionalities of significance.

    Thank's for that deep explanation in this subject!

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