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A method for getting non-audiobus apps into audiobus (ie. Skram)

Update: Thanks to lieslavish for the tip, you can also accomplish this sans computer simply by running the ipad directly through a stereo audio interface. I was able to get this to work with an iRig, taking the output from the headphone jack directly into the ipad input. The downside with the iRig is that is doesn't have built in monitoring, but there should be portable interfaces out there that do have built in monitoring.

This isn't ideal obviously, but because some otherwise very good apps like Skram don't have audiobus support, this method is one way of getting it's output into audiobus without needing to do file transfers.

I do it with my laptop, a daw, studiomux and iRig. I connect the ipad to the laptop via usb, and I connect the usb end of the irig into the laptop and the headphone jack into the ipad. iRig will show up as an input in DAW and this way any audio coming out of my ipad goes into my daw. Then I route that audio in my daw into a studiomux effect and load the studiomux channel into my audiobus input slot, then set your audiobus output of choice (GtL, Loopy, Auria, etc) You can now pass audio straight through audiobus for anything that generates audio on your ipad. The other nice thing about this is you can combine audio from your ipad apps with your desktop vsts. The obvious downside is you need to have a laptop with you to make this work, although all in all it's still a very portable solution.

What I like about this method is your audiobus output app will still pass it's audio through the iRig into your DAW, so you get all kinds of flexibility like FX processing on your DAW, or for example bypassing the ipad bluetooth audio output limitation by connecting your bluetooth headset to your laptop instead. You can also use studiomux midi capability to route midi pretty much any way you please. Hopefully this is helpful to someone.

Comments

  • Nice recommendation for when you want to pass audio through an external DAW for processing! For simplicity's sake, you could replace the iRig with a stereo interface, plug it into the iPad, and then plug the interface's output into its own input. That's what I do for getting non-Audiobus apps into Audiobus.

    The concept is identical, but it takes the laptop, studiomux, and the DAW out of the equation. Sadly, this isn't possible with an iRig, since its input is mono (which is why I never picked it up), but its suitable for any interface that has two input channels.

    When using either of these methods, make sure that 'monitoring' is turned off in whatever app you're recording into...! Especially at low latencies, this would cause one heck of a feedback loop. When I do this using headphones, I make sure that I'm not wearing them before I'm sure that monitoring is turned off. You'll need to monitor the sound at some other link in the chain: the DAW in @Judochopjames 's example or using the interface's built-in monitoring, in mine.

  • Or just use AUM in the input slot...........

  • @RustiK said:
    Or just use AUM in the input slot...........

    Am I missing something here, coz wouldn't that need Skram to load as a Source in AUM? I can't get Skram to load into AUM any which way I try.

  • @Salamander69 said:

    @RustiK said:
    Or just use AUM in the input slot...........

    Am I missing something here, coz wouldn't that need Skram to load as a Source in AUM? I can't get Skram to load into AUM any which way I try.

    No Skram won't work in AUM, theoretically it would be a workaround for some apps but I have a feeling most apps that wouldn't work in the audiobus input slot also won't work in AUM. Plus passing the audio through an interface would also let you record no app audio like youtube and things like that, great for sampling.

  • This is great! Your post actually gave me an idea, not sure why I hadn't thought of trying it before, of just plugging the iRig into the usb and then straight into the ipads headphone jack. This works to pass the audio along the cable, the only drawback here is that you don't have a way to monitor the audio as it plays. As you suggested an interface with it's own built in monitoring capability would solve this problem.

    The iRig method is very portable though, and I got good results simply setting up what I want to record, recording it into audioshare, trimming it and then loading it into AUM's file player which can then route to my audiobus output. You could still technically route the audio straight to the audiobus output as long as your output app has the ability to edit incoming audio. But using the method I just described, I could get perfect loops out of Skram into group the loop without too much fuss. I'll update the OP to include this method.

    @lieslavish said:
    Nice recommendation for when you want to pass audio through an external DAW for processing! For simplicity's sake, you could replace the iRig with a stereo interface, plug it into the iPad, and then plug the interface's output into its own input. That's what I do for getting non-Audiobus apps into Audiobus.

    The concept is identical, but it takes the laptop, studiomux, and the DAW out of the equation. Sadly, this isn't possible with an iRig, since its input is mono (which is why I never picked it up), but its suitable for any interface that has two input channels.

    When using either of these methods, make sure that 'monitoring' is turned off in whatever app you're recording into...! Especially at low latencies, this would cause one heck of a feedback loop. When I do this using headphones, I make sure that I'm not wearing them before I'm sure that monitoring is turned off. You'll need to monitor the sound at some other link in the chain: the DAW in @Judochopjames 's example or using the interface's built-in monitoring, in mine.

  • @Judochopjames said:
    This is great! Your post actually gave me an idea, not sure why I hadn't thought of trying it before, of just plugging the iRig into the usb and then straight into the ipads headphone jack.

    Must give this a go. Thanks

  • Skram IAA coming soon.

  • When?....... When Blocs Wave promised there updates, they deliver..... All gone quiet on the Skram front........ Probably as I write this, they'll update tomorrow, & I'll think wow!...... Or not?...... :)

  • @liine_nick said:
    Skram IAA coming soon.

    I am looking forward to that increased functionality.

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