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Not Anti-MODSTEP------ just PRO GENOME?

I have given MOD STEP some time.

I must say I am astounded that more people don't realize that much of what they like about MOD STEP has always been available in GENOME. I know there are differences, I am just putting this out there for anyone who was wondering the comparison.

Genome does not play samples however. I does have a cool little semi-modular synth and drum synth.

However, the crux of the matter is MIDI control for many.

Let me put this in the simplest terms possible.

If I am using Genome and a MIDI controller, I can twist my knobs on my keyboard adjusting parameters as I play and GENOME records the MIDI info. The "knobs" then turn when I play that clip back. I just wasn't sure if that is known by everyone. It took me a second when I first got GENOME for which now seems like years ago.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out what I am coming to feel regarding which MIDI / CLIP / SEQUENCER app I am liking to use the most.

Plus, Genome is able to be done QUICK and ON THE FLY.

Now we just need one of these apps for the IPHONE!

TGIF yALL

Comments

  • "The curvature of things is their only memorable aspect, but you never see it."

  • I do wish Modstep had Genome's "instant" mode for switching clips. Makes jamming seem a little less rigid and block-shaped.

  • @rhcball said:
    "The curvature of things is their only memorable aspect, but you never see it."

    THinking about it a little bit............

    COOL MEMORY to say the least.

  • I guess it boils down to your workflow or what "clicks" with you...

    I was so much hoping for Genome to work, I really tried, but I couldn't stand it. To me it's a Fail. Adding a CC is long and tedious, no global scales, too many steps on different pages, and what was worse is that if you get the sequencer going and add a track and a scene, you're out of sync with other tracks...You must stop and restart Gnome to get back in sync. I wrote the dev and he said there's not much to do about it...it's a while back I got rid of it...

    ModStep on the other hand is elegant, MIDI edit is easy, for example I can load X number of Gadget synths into MS, create scenes, assign midi channels and just record, play, all is there on one page, add modulation, make variations to clips.. I don't even have to look at the apps as long as I got the sound in the synths.. I don't know, I find MS really good for that...once they fix the low Audio and few bugs, it will be great....and still I didn't figure out the app completely...

  • Use whatever works for you.

  • @soundklinik said:
    I guess it boils down to your workflow or what "clicks" with you...

    I was so much hoping for Genome to work, I really tried, but I couldn't stand it. To me it's a Fail. Adding a CC is long and tedious, no global scales, too many steps on different pages, and what was worse is that if you get the sequencer going and add a track and a scene, you're out of sync with other tracks...You must stop and restart Gnome to get back in sync. I wrote the dev and he said there's not much to do about it...it's a while back I got rid of it...

    ModStep on the other hand is elegant, MIDI edit is easy, for example I can load X number of Gadget synths into MS, create scenes, assign midi channels and just record, play, all is there on one page, add modulation, make variations to clips.. I don't even have to look at the apps as long as I got the sound in the synths.. I don't know, I find MS really good for that...once they fix the low Audio and few bugs, it will be great....and still I didn't figure out the app completely...

    I am sure more time wouldn't hurt.

    Let me as, do you use MOD STEP and use it to record audio?

    Or do you use it to sequence into a DAW?

    How is loading Gadget synths different than just using Gadget into a DAW? Maybe I am not realizing some revelation that may change my workflow?

  • @RustiK said:

    @soundklinik said:
    I guess it boils down to your workflow or what "clicks" with you...

    I was so much hoping for Genome to work, I really tried, but I couldn't stand it. To me it's a Fail. Adding a CC is long and tedious, no global scales, too many steps on different pages, and what was worse is that if you get the sequencer going and add a track and a scene, you're out of sync with other tracks...You must stop and restart Gnome to get back in sync. I wrote the dev and he said there's not much to do about it...it's a while back I got rid of it...

    ModStep on the other hand is elegant, MIDI edit is easy, for example I can load X number of Gadget synths into MS, create scenes, assign midi channels and just record, play, all is there on one page, add modulation, make variations to clips.. I don't even have to look at the apps as long as I got the sound in the synths.. I don't know, I find MS really good for that...once they fix the low Audio and few bugs, it will be great....and still I didn't figure out the app completely...

    I am sure more time wouldn't hurt.

    Let me as, do you use MOD STEP and use it to record audio?

    Or do you use it to sequence into a DAW?

    How is loading Gadget synths different than just using Gadget into a DAW? Maybe I am not realizing some revelation that may change my workflow?

    You've inspired me to record a video of me just messing around in modstep and routing midi into gadget and aum. Just pure songwriting and midi using appregiators and other apps. In my workflow songwriting is the step where I just use presets and get basic melodies and chords down. Sound design is thr next 50+hrs lol. Don't know when im going to do it but it will be soon.

  • @RustiK said:

    @soundklinik said:
    I guess it boils down to your workflow or what "clicks" with you...

    I was so much hoping for Genome to work, I really tried, but I couldn't stand it. To me it's a Fail. Adding a CC is long and tedious, no global scales, too many steps on different pages, and what was worse is that if you get the sequencer going and add a track and a scene, you're out of sync with other tracks...You must stop and restart Gnome to get back in sync. I wrote the dev and he said there's not much to do about it...it's a while back I got rid of it...

    ModStep on the other hand is elegant, MIDI edit is easy, for example I can load X number of Gadget synths into MS, create scenes, assign midi channels and just record, play, all is there on one page, add modulation, make variations to clips.. I don't even have to look at the apps as long as I got the sound in the synths.. I don't know, I find MS really good for that...once they fix the low Audio and few bugs, it will be great....and still I didn't figure out the app completely...

    I am sure more time wouldn't hurt.

    Let me as, do you use MOD STEP and use it to record audio?

    Or do you use it to sequence into a DAW?

    How is loading Gadget synths different than just using Gadget into a DAW? Maybe I am not realizing some revelation that may change my workflow?

    For me it's Modstep's non linear sequencing environment, which is the difference between Ableton's session view and a traditional DAW on Mac or pc. In Modstep once you have Gadget's sounds set up to your liking, ideas develop very quickly using scenes of clips.

    Cheers
    Jed

  • I don't know what it was about Genome, but I just could not get it to work. It could never consistently send more than one simultaneous note. I tried several times to figure out what was wrong and then finally requested a refund. I don't do that lightly. I've only ever asked for three refunds in several years. ModStep wasn't as good as it is now back then, but I found that I could get along with it. I may have given up too soon, but not looking back at this point.

    I really wanted Genome to work out for me because I liked the song mode. Now ModStep has something that can do the same thing - just not as elegantly. Optional immediate pattern switching in ModStep would be a nice addition.

    Anyway - I'm glad Genome works for the OP and others!

  • edited May 2016

    Follow my iElectribe iPhone ver. and midiSTEPs and midiLFOs tutorial,

    You will have great Friday and Saturday night :) haha, bye bye!

  • @Kaikoo2 said:
    Follow my iElectribe iPhone ver. and midiSTEPs and midiLFOs tutorial,

    You will have great Friday and Saturday night :) haha, bye bye!

    Will do.

  • @wim said:
    I don't know what it was about Genome, but I just could not get it to work. It could never consistently send more than one simultaneous note. I tried several times to figure out what was wrong and then finally requested a refund. I don't do that lightly. I've only ever asked for three refunds in several years. ModStep wasn't as good as it is now back then, but I found that I could get along with it. I may have given up too soon, but not looking back at this point.

    I really wanted Genome to work out for me because I liked the song mode. Now ModStep has something that can do the same thing - just not as elegantly. Optional immediate pattern switching in ModStep would be a nice addition.

    Anyway - I'm glad Genome works for the OP and others!

    I just noticed alot of new people posting.

    And being that MOD STEP appears daunting to some. I just wanted it known their is an easier yet similar type app also available.

  • edited May 2016

    @RustiK said:

    @soundklinik said:
    I guess it boils down to your workflow or what "clicks" with you...

    I was so much hoping for Genome to work, I really tried, but I couldn't stand it. To me it's a Fail. Adding a CC is long and tedious, no global scales, too many steps on different pages, and what was worse is that if you get the sequencer going and add a track and a scene, you're out of sync with other tracks...You must stop and restart Gnome to get back in sync. I wrote the dev and he said there's not much to do about it...it's a while back I got rid of it...

    ModStep on the other hand is elegant, MIDI edit is easy, for example I can load X number of Gadget synths into MS, create scenes, assign midi channels and just record, play, all is there on one page, add modulation, make variations to clips.. I don't even have to look at the apps as long as I got the sound in the synths.. I don't know, I find MS really good for that...once they fix the low Audio and few bugs, it will be great....and still I didn't figure out the app completely...

    I am sure more time wouldn't hurt.
    Let me as, do you use MOD STEP and use it to record audio?

    Or do you use it to sequence into a DAW?

    How is loading Gadget synths different than just using Gadget into a DAW? Maybe I am not realizing some revelation that may change my workflow

    >

    @RustiK , I find the arrangement in ModStep very simple for this reason: in gadget, everything is linear, you make a track, put in gadgets A,B,C,D, etc and each "line" plays the sequence.

    In ModStep, the synths A,B,C,D etc are as default sound modules and you got scenes below, meaning you can click on ANY row ANY track and see how it fits without the constraints of playing whole line of sequence. They can be stopped/started anytime great for jamming...
    I put gadget as an example because everyone has it or knows it, but you can do the same with different IAA or AU apps...
    Please don't take it as "lecturing", (you know iOS and apps much more than me), that's how I use and see the advantage in ModStep, that's how I would explain it to myself...

    I hope that the little bugs will get ironed out in ModStep ..specially the low sound...the sophistication of ModStep is great, look at some tutorials from @Kaikoo2 , you can't do any of that in Genome ...

    +1 to what @wim says...the same frustrating stuff....

  • edited May 2016

    With these 4 apps plus any AU fx (Maybe with Turnado and WOW), you can do things DJ apps can not do. You separately doing 1 IAA and 8 or more iElectribe instruments midi tracks on ch10, with midSTEPs randomizer, with midiLFOs optimizer, you can make so beautiful dance track on Modstep that no one VST, no one app can achieve! You will be awarded Grammy Award!

  • @hacked_to_pieces said:
    Use whatever works for you.

    But then there would be no holy wars.

  • @soundklinik said:
    no global scales

    this part always bums me out

  • @wim said:
    I don't know what it was about Genome, but I just could not get it to work.

    +1

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