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Best songwriting app, EVER!!!

The piano.
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  • I disagree.All of my songs are written with just...a triangle!! :p

  • Not actually an app but I understand your polnt. I write most songs on my piano. But ideas often begin on apps like Fugue, Auxy, Gadget, Auria or many others. But nothing beats sitting at the piano for inspiration. All the notes are right there, just not necessarily in the right order.

  • My last song incorporated some of the very same notes that Keith Emerson used.

  • Yep but in app form, maybe not the best, but my favourite is iGrand. It has a metronome. It has a basic record with overdub. It has a good choice of pianos and strings to hit the mood.

  • I was getting confused thinking "the piano" was some app I didn't know about.
    Well ok, then, I use the cowbell.

  • There is another that could have an equal claim - the acoustic guitar. As a keyboard player, I would tend to gravitate to a piano, but a few years ago I learnt to play a guitar (very badly) and find that I write differently if I use a guitar. And I suppose that any writing tool - take Gadget as an example - will influence what you write, hence it being seen as more suitable for certain types of music - although certainly not exclusively so. But something like a piano or a guitar is good, because if you can produce something that sounds good and interesting on that, then it will sound even better when a full arrangement is behind it. Actually, I stole that last thought, I believe it comes from David Bowie (or so Rick Wakeman said!).

  • edited May 2016

    99% of my stuff is written on the guitar. Would love to learn the piano as well though.

  • My "songs" or at least the more interesting ones always start with an insane person talking about fallen angels, demons, etc. on AM radio, and needless to say these songs are all infringing on copyright, so maybe i should learn to play piano properly....

  • I agree to the extent that I think any good app with a piano in it like ThumbJam or SampleTank in combination with great piano roll like the one in Modstep is great if not best for songwriting for a musically untrained person like me, still not easy though...

  • If you want your songs to sound like Elton John, Tori Amos, Donald Fagen or Burt Bacharach then yes. Of course then there's Jerry Lee Lewis but that's another story...

  • David Bowie wrote Lust For Life on a ukulele with Iggy in Berlin.

  • My best songs are entirely conceived in my head while walking outside or standing in the shower, etc. I only map them back to a chord progression after I understand the story I want to tell and the basic melody and rhythm that will form the spine of the story. But I am fixated on the ends rather than the means...

  • will Verso sue me for concocting an album from the words of Jean Baudrillard or will they buy my pretence rooted in some vague reference to a so-called radicalism? what is the best Animoog timbre to reflect the historical ambivalence of trees?

  • I would apply my synth sound design to that midi once I know I have a strong composition. The piano only approach is just to focus only on what I struggle with the most - music theory. Once I am at a comfortable level with my music theory I'll probably won't fell the need to compose with piano only.

  • If piano is "Auria Pro", guitar is "Cubasis".

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    My best songs are entirely conceived in my head while walking outside or standing in the shower, etc. I only map them back to a chord progression after I understand the story I want to tell and the basic melody and rhythm that will form the spine of the story. But I am fixated on the ends rather than the means...

    Lately I try to not "corrupt" my musical ideas by picking up a guitar. Fingers tend to go where they are trained to go. I like opening the Voice Recorder app and humming my melodies, picking them out on guitar later.

  • edited May 2016

    @Telstar5 said:
    If piano is "Auria Pro", guitar is "Cubasis".

    That kinda implies the piano is better than the guitar.... But in popular music far more great songs have been written on the guitar. The devil plays a guitar you know, well, Keith Richards anyway. And Barry Manilow plays the piano.

  • @gburks said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    My best songs are entirely conceived in my head while walking outside or standing in the shower, etc. I only map them back to a chord progression after I understand the story I want to tell and the basic melody and rhythm that will form the spine of the story. But I am fixated on the ends rather than the means...

    Lately I try to not "corrupt" my musical ideas by picking up a guitar. Fingers tend to go where they are trained to go. I like opening the Voice Recorder app and humming my melodies, picking them out on guitar later.

    That's it exactly!

  • @u0421793 said:
    David Bowie wrote Lust For Life on a ukulele with Iggy in Berlin.

    Uke's been another way I've mixed up that tendency to play familiar chords. When I first started playing it, I intentionally tried to avoid learning too much, let myself get lost making up new chords, trusting my ear.

  • It's true that melodies that have been dreamt up away from the instrument can often be stronger. I think the best occurrence is when a combination of words and melody pops in to your head seemingly from nowhere, they're usually the best ones.

  • @richardyot said:
    It's true that melodies that have been dreamt up away from the instrument can often be stronger. I think the best occurrence is when a combination of words and melody pops in to your head seemingly from nowhere, they're usually the best ones.

    From the subconscious, whatever that means, is usually best. As they teach in writing workshops, "turn off the front of your brain and write from the back".

  • I usually grab my guitar or hook my iPad up to some type of physical controller for initial song writing or idea sketching. Not that touching a screen is not creative, and there are a ton of great apps that utilize the touch screen in a completely playable way. I just like the actual feel of the strings or the keys. Even the pads and sliders on my QuNeo gives me a sensation that I cannot get when sliding my fingers around on a screen or just tapping in midi notes on a sequencer.

  • Mouse organ for me, only problem is I can only play in the key of Eeeck, then all the notes seem the same, either Eeeck or Eeeck, errmm, flat. As for lyrics being a bi-lingual illiterate, I can't read or write in two languages.

  • edited May 2016

    Piano roll sequencer, virtual keys, (Modstep). I have an Xkey, but I haven't really integrated it into the plan. Peripherals

  • @LostBoy85 said:
    I disagree.All of my songs are written with just...a triangle!! :p

    I write all my songs with a 40 oz. and a stick.

  • @richardyot said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    If piano is "Auria Pro", guitar is "Cubasis".

    That kinda implies the piano is better than the guitar.... But in popular music far more great songs have been written on the guitar. The devil plays a guitar you know, well, Keith Richards anyway. And Barry Manilow plays the piano.

    I don't get your logic. Auria Pro isn't better than Cubasis anymore than piano is better than guitar. They are just different.

  • edited May 2016

    If you know music theory and your inner ear is well trained you don't even need a piano for some stuff.

  • For me,although an electro guitar player, the synth is what will get me inspired. Like an amazing patch from Model 15, then follow it with a great sounding groove from RDM and so on, now that I've got an electric rhythm guitar patch going that would go next and so on. But now mostly mobile so no controller, but all iPad.

  • The piano is more complete than the guitar in that it encompasses a wider range of notes (bass).. Like Cubasis, the guitar can get the general idea.. And yes we write differently on guitar..
    It's not true that most of our best songs were written on guitar.. Stevie Wonder, Carol King.. the Beatles even wrote on piano. The older pop songs (Gerswhin, etc) were piano centered..
    Google "King of the instruments".. See which ones come up..
    In more recent pop music though, guitar is dominant, no question.

  • Lukesleepwalker, very well put.. But at the same time Brian Wilson says to him, the chords (on piano of course) come first.. Before the melody and the lyrics..

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