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Question about MIDI with Roland editor app
Hey guys,
A bit off topic but, I have a question about midi mapping my controller with my Roland integra sound module editor app and this forum has always been more active/helpful with specific midi questions as compared with other forums. I've attached a picture of the editor. It shows a 'studio set,' basically a preset with 16 tones each assigned to its own midi channel. What I want to do is have the faders on my M Audio code 61 controller control volume for each sound. Am I trying to map the faders to the app or somehow to the the module? Or just to a specific midi channel? In any case, I have no clue where to begin. Any assistance would be valuable and appreciated. 
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If there's a midi learn feature on the app, then all you have to do is enable it. And, as you select a fader on the app, slide the hardware fader and it should now map automatically tor that virtual fader. Ow, I dont own that module but that's how one usually mapps midi stuff. Hope it helps a bit.
No midi learn function that I can see, that would be much easier. I'm just trying to wrap my brain around this...the app manipulates the sound module and I want to manipulate the app from my controller, but maybe there is a way to map the faders to these volumes directly in the hardware module. I'll have to check out the manual again, but not much info for midi mapping...
I don't own either but try sending CC7 on each of the 16 channels to control the volume of each part. That's the default CC for volume and most multitimbral roland products allow for this.
@mptrin , there are things missing in your setup.
Your controller should have an editor. Look on m-audio site to get it, if there isn't one you're in trouble.
The snap of sound module you're showing looks to me like the editor for the integra 7.
You need to find the manuals! for it to see the midi assignment so you can use them or if there isn't one you can make them and save them.
It works this way between the two: your m-audio has pots and sliders. Each has a CC number. You have to see what they are. Then you can change them or assign them in integra or vica versa and save as a template.
Your controller has sliders= use for volume and pots=use for balance. Then if you like you can change the assignment for the 16 pads to CCs, (now they are notes) and use 8 for solo and 8 for mutes and save that template.In other templates keep them as notes.
Then each track should have its sound and midi channel and when you play you switch midi channels and that let's you play different sounds....like a TV with all its channels.....
Thanks syrupcore and soundklinik! I'm still working through the manuals and I did find a manual that was specifically for midi implementation. I have midi channels set for each tone and can switch between them from my controller, so no problems there. I am also able to control the volume of each from the editor app, but I would prefer to do this with the physical faders of the keyboard rather than the iPad screen. I know how to set the faders to a CC on my controller, I just couldn't figure out what to set it to. I think syrupcore is correct about sending CC7. Here is what I found in the midi implementation guide:
❍❍Volume (Controller number 7)
Status 2nd byte 3rd byte
BnH 07H vvH
n = MIDI channel number: 0H - FH (ch.1 - 16)
vv = Volume: 00H - 7FH (0 - 127)
I have no idea what most of this means but I am going to try sending CC7 on all faders when I get the chance. Do I need to also set a midi channel for each fader? So that it specifically controls the volume of that assigned tone?
What you're showing is a SYSEX message, you don't need it...
https://www.midi.org/specifications/item/table-3-control-change-messages-data-bytes-2
Do it simply by assigning a different CC number to each fader, all on the same midi channel like ch. 1.
Use CC numbers 20-27....do the same to pots with other numbers=CC 52-59.
[don't use CC#7 as it maybe a master volume on other synths]...and could create conflicts. Those numbers above are free, unassigned.
[Now as you change midi channels on keyboard, it allows you to play different channels on the sound module and still control pots and sliders.]
You do this on M-AUDIO....Then! you assign THOSE same CCs to your sound module (via) editor and save it.
Done
Your drum pads should always play by default on ch. 10 any time, regardless of what midi channel you are on keyboard.
If not, set it up that way, always on ch.10.
what I am describing is how you use your hardware without PC....M-audio controlling Roland integra and even iPad via CCK
Thanks @soundklinik! I will give this a shot when I am back in front of my equipment.
Yes, probably. It depends how your controller is set up and how you want to control the different tones. If switching the midi channel will switch the midi channel for the the sliders, you can set one to CC7 and it should follow along with your channel changes for controlling the current sound (midi channel dependent). Some controllers allow you to set a specific channel per slider and some allow that along with a 'global' channel which means it will follow whichever channel the controller is currently set to.
the other option is to set your controllers to CC7 on a discreet MIDI channel each. That way you can use all of the sliders to control the entire mix at once.
So, I contacted Roland support and what I would like to do here can't really be done. While I can set my controller faders to control volume levels of each part/midi channel, the iPad editor won't update in real time. So as I change volume from the controller, the module will respond but the faders on my editor app screen will remain in their current positions. Kind of a bummer. So I will probably just use the editor app faders to control volume so I have an accurate picture of the levels at all times. Thanks for all the help gents!