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(Re)Discovering Sector

I see a lot of comments re: Sector, (or imagine I do), to the effect of, I can't see how to work it into any of my (your, our) songs. I felt much the same, but might have figured out a method. So I've been taking old 'finished' tracks, cutting up 30 to 50-some seconds out of the middle, and then making a new(ish) backing track for a new(ish) song, from this process. Usually doing 16 bars or so in the sequencer, with typically zero (0) of the Warping modulations (although they can be nice if used sparingly, as I have read here, in the past).

As I have hundreds of old "songs" that will not even be listened to by my relatives upon my departure, I am, what, composting, or recycling, those old failures, abortions, etc. And so far it seems to be doing the trick, although some types of tracks just will not respond well. So, in summary, you actually can find a proper place for Sector, if you are me, or perhaps you, or otherwise, etc.

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  • Care to share? SOTMC?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Care to share? SOTMC?

    Every month I ponder but hesitate.

    This is an example of a backing track via this method, haven't figured out the song yet.

    or this one:

    other persons please feel free to share sector-incorporation-tips.

  • I just rediscovered Samplr today myself, after not using it for quite some time, and managed to put together a track with it that I was actually pleased with! Kind of took the same route: dumped three phrases into it, phrases which I was having no luck with elsewhere.

  • @1P18 said:
    I just rediscovered Samplr today myself, after not using it for quite some time, and managed to put together a track with it that I was actually pleased with! Kind of took the same route: dumped three phrases into it, phrases which I was having no luck with elsewhere.

    Yeah I often use Samplr the same way as I use Sector, rehabilitating stuff that did not work, especially awful pitchless vocal struggles.

  • If you aren't that much in the stochastic side of things you can always use the sequencer, which is a great way to rearrange loops.

  • Sector is nice for drums but here I'm using it on the synth part:

    Also it is easy to make use of it since AUM, I like making a 3 or 4 tracks loop in gadget, export the tracks, and mix them in AUM using sector, AUFXs, and apesoft/amazing noises apps

  • Brilliant idea. Sector has great midi implementation so one word comes to mind:
    "Modstep"

  • Nice work @rhcball. Hope to hear something on top. Or not—sound cool as is.

  • @pierre sounds great. That's how I mostly use Sector as well.

    The moment that got Sector and I started a lasting relationship was when I figured out that ensuring that at least one sector was silent meant the sequencer could be used to insert rhythmic breathing room wherever I wanted. Can be a pain to set up sectors that way though. Might be cool if there were an always-available 'silence' destination for the sequencer.

  • @syrupcore said:
    @pierre sounds great. That's how I mostly use Sector as well.

    The moment that got Sector and I started a lasting relationship was when I figured out that ensuring that at least one sector was silent meant the sequencer could be used to insert rhythmic breathing room wherever I wanted. Can be a pain to set up sectors that way though. Might be cool if there were an always-available 'silence' destination for the sequencer.

    One of the warps completely silences audio, or is this not what you mean?

  • I'm without an iPad, but I'd be curious to see how far one could get throwing a small handful of simple note patterns into Fugue Machine, maybe one for a verse, chorus etc, sending to synths and then reassembling in Sector. Seems like it might be the perfect recipe to get a lot out of very little.

  • @syrupcore said:
    @pierre sounds great. That's how I mostly use Sector as well.

    The moment that got Sector and I started a lasting relationship was when I figured out that ensuring that at least one sector was silent meant the sequencer could be used to insert rhythmic breathing room wherever I wanted. Can be a pain to set up sectors that way though. Might be cool if there were an always-available 'silence' destination for the sequencer.

    Thanks!
    Yes, the silent warp fx was a big step into making sector less aggressive on drums

    To me, sector makes really sense in AUM, it's easy to jam in sync with other fx, synths or sequencers and record the results

    For now I basically used only one preset in sector, I almost never start from blank, that way I don't have to redo the seq part; (that I use to stick the 1,3,5,7... beats with strong percentage so the map page can be on full random ) also I like the warp page to be not too crazy, just a few stutters here and there.

    There is a lot more to do, I really love that app, it's one of the few that make me stick to the iPad instead of going back to Windows

  • @Nathan said:
    I've never managed to get anything rhythmical out of Sector, it always sounds mangled or unpleasant. But I concede that this may be my own incompetence. However, the use I have found for it is in deliberately mangling the spoken word. At that task, it excels.

    Works written for written rof w w w word written nettirw too.

  • edited May 2016

    @OscarSouth said:

    @syrupcore said:
    @pierre sounds great. That's how I mostly use Sector as well.

    The moment that got Sector and I started a lasting relationship was when I figured out that ensuring that at least one sector was silent meant the sequencer could be used to insert rhythmic breathing room wherever I wanted. Can be a pain to set up sectors that way though. Might be cool if there were an always-available 'silence' destination for the sequencer.

    One of the warps completely silences audio, or is this not what you mean?

    Yep, and I use it when need to—I usually bring in 'prepared' files into sector, taking the time to make a silent 16th/32nd—but, short of that, it means if you want to reliably have a 'silence' target, you have to sacrifice a sector/existing portion of the audio you import. If you plan for it, that's fine but it yeah, think it would be useful to have a 'none' or 'silence' target in the sequencer. Or perhaps a more useful wishlist feature is something like a separate velocity/volume track—then you could simply choose to set a given step to zero to insert a silence. Oh man, if it had and independent sequence length from the main triggering sequence... polyrhythm/generative amen.

    cc/ @j_liljedahl

  • Sector, Samplr, iDensity, and Sliver all are good endpoints for my unused track snippets. As I seemingly always seem to write in Dminor (" the saddest key"), they usually work well when I just mash them together. Mind you, they tend to be glitchy noise pieces, but I kind of like messing about with that strategy.

  • edited May 2016

    @syrupcore said:
    Oh man, if it had and independent sequence length from the main triggering sequence... polyrhythm/generative amen.

    ^ no amen (break) pun intended but somehow proud of it anyway.

  • edited May 2016

    @syrupcore said: think it would be useful to have a 'none' or 'silence' target in the sequencer.
    Or perhaps a more useful wishlist feature is something like a separate velocity/volume track—then you could simply choose to set a given step to zero to insert a silence. cc/ @j_liljedahl

    +1
    yes drumloops without silent steps turn out to be to busy for my taste :#
    silent warp doesn't help - I need to see steps and and pauses at the same time

    (writing of silent warp and thinking of silent bob ^^ )

  • Is there a way to manually adjust slice link in sector?

  • edited May 2016

    @Seangarland said:
    Sector, Samplr, iDensity, and Sliver all are good endpoints for my unused track snippets. As I seemingly always seem to write in Dminor (" the saddest key"), they usually work well when I just mash them together. Mind you, they tend to be glitchy noise pieces, but I kind of like messing about with that strategy.

    You wrote "Lick My Love Pump"?!

  • @johnfromberkeley said:
    Is there a way to manually adjust slice link in sector?

    What do you mean?

    You can make a less busy pattern playing around with steps lenght and playback speed. But it will work as a kind of non dynamic stutter/gate effect. If the step duration is longer than playback time, adjusted via tempo and playback speed, you can achieve silence after EACH slice.

  • Sector is a really unique animal.

    I probably use it as like a mix between EGOIST and SAMPLR.

    Not always for beats as much as MIDI featured single note hits or rythmic melody background stuff.

    I actually loaded it up via Funbox with a an assload of LOOPMASTERS packs and it is a blast.

    I forget, it doesn't have LINK does it?

  • No link yet but if it has very good iaa sync and AUM has link (I almost see those 2 as one app)

  • I have yet to use it in a song. But I have spent whole evenings mesmerized and blissfully playing with it. It's absolutely one of my favorite apps, but not for any practical reason! B)

  • One more use I never thought:
    instead of using it as a glitch machine you can use it as a sequencer. Load a 64 bars sample with 4 different 16 bars loops, long slice to taste, let sector do its magic

  • @pierre said:
    No link yet but if it has very good iaa sync and AUM has link (I almost see those 2 as one app)

    I was also hoping for Link in Sector soon and even went as far as pestering @j_liljedahl on his forum about it, but after using Sector in AUM with IAA Sync for a while, I've got no complaints at all. Never even had the slightest synch issue. Don't even need AB:r fast switching because EVERYTHING in sector can be controlled externally via MIDI.

  • I do plan on adding Link to SECTOR, but as you've already seen: any app that implements proper IAA host sync will automatically get Link sync when hosted in AUM :)

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    I do plan on adding Link to SECTOR, but as you've already seen: any app that implements proper IAA host sync will automatically get Link sync when hosted in AUM :)

    I do wish that other developers would implement IAA sync as well as you've done with Sector ;)

  • @sleepless said:

    @j_liljedahl said:
    I do plan on adding Link to SECTOR, but as you've already seen: any app that implements proper IAA host sync will automatically get Link sync when hosted in AUM :)

    I do wish that other developers would implement IAA sync as well as you've done with Sector ;)

    if Apple really cared they'd hand over the entire IAA project to him.

  • edited May 2016

    I've had Sector since my early days with the iPad, but it was only today, after reading this topic that I realized it's a lot deeper than I'd cared to find out. I had a couple of minutes at the office this afternoon so I put this together.
    Sector, Patterning, WOW, AUM, Audioshare.

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