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Life love Balance
Not doing a good job of it myself atm
Want to make music, have to work as only wage, get crap for everything
Want to make music that puts people in good mood
How am I supposed to do that
Am I alone
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You're not alone.
Collaboration might help. Find someone to bounce ideas around with.
I think many of us are in the same boat. I get my best musical ideas during the day, when I have no opportunity to make music. Then at night, once I've put the kids to bed and finally have some time, I'm exhaused and void of any creativity. You're not alone.
Which all reminds me of this great "article" from The Onion.
http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/find-the-thing-youre-most-passionate-about-then-do-31742
Thats it that's what I'm trying to describe
I'm sure you're far from alone. I'm with you as well. It's all rather new to me. I've played guitar for years, but early on it was a struggle, as I don't have an innate ability or ear for it, but lately I've re-discovered how much it means to me. I've always loved music, but until recently, I never thought I could actually produce anything. It's still highly questionable, but now I want to try....just for my enjoyment. But the life aspect has to get more balanced to pull it off.
@Seangarland - gotta make the time...absolutely right!
No not alone. I find it comes and goes in phases - sometimes for a few weeks or months sometimes. Even worse are those times when you know you have a free afternoon or night coming up and you plan to make music - but then the day comes and you grab your iPad but the juices just don't flow. I find those days quite frustrating.
What (sometimes) works for me is using sequencers or arpeggiators. I find that when I try to write my own songs from scratch, I fall into the same habits of using the same scales/keys. Sometimes something interesting will happen that sends me in a good direction.
That works sometimes - other times I seem to waste hours tweaking a sequence I think is almost there and then I only seem to make it worse. But other times yes - or run some samples through an effects app like Turnado or Effectrix.
Wow, I had thought I was the only one. To a T, I have ideas during the day as well. And....... I am creative while at work thinking of them. Get home, kids, stuff to do, family time. Which I love and wouldn't trade for anything.
9pm or later. I can't even think of picking up my guitar plugging it in, getting Bias FX up and running... I'm tired just thinking about it. I had to stop and rest take a nap on my 45 min drive home from work today. Was dosing off. I get so fatigued. Get pissed and sooo disappointed that I can't stay awake to play music, let a lone MAKE and record it.
Maybe some day.......Thanks for sharing your struggles, and thoughts. And..............letting me vent mine.......................
More times than I can count, I've found that creating to actually express the awful feelings I'm having, often yields results that inspire the feelings I'm trying to have!
So I recommend going with whatever flow you're having, the results might be good and also help you, you know?
I hope you feel better soon.
+1
I have full time work and family so in the same boat . Music for me is a pleasurable means of expression , and the iPad allows me to sneak an hour in here and there when there's time . I don't give a tuppeny fig if others like what I do musically - it's for me not them and the only 'selfish' thing I do . If it wasn't for the self-contained immediacy of the iPad , I probably wouldn't have time for music at all lol
Omg I got a +1, yay me, go me!
Ok, OT gush over, sorry for any inconvenience, now returning to previously scheduled programmes.
Andy,
The pressure of life should not affect music making, yet it does without a doubt. I think the collaboration idea someone said, is good. We tried once, but my health got in the way (for now). I do see one issue with collaboration done by mail though. Tell me if I'm wrong here, but I get the impression that you and I get more from actually jamming our music, yet this is still pretty much impossible over the internet due to lag.
I'm pretty much bored at this time of trying to piece together music. I would just like to sit in a room with actual people and make music on the fly - good old fashion jamming, yet with the apps and tech we have and any other instruments.
Maybe we worry too much that we have to make the most of our music gear we have due to cost, time and maybe even our age. Maybe we think too much and should just laugh with our loved ones and make music when it happens - maybe it will become more enjoyable when we stop trying so hard, or maybe I'm just tired and talking crap
It's now the morning after the night before, I am lifted and heartened to know that I am not the only one that gets these feelings, makes me feel at least normal, and definitely not alone
Long live music and it's ability to give us those 5 minutes of pleasure here and there in between the sometimes gruesomeness of life
Or make music with your loved ones
I auditioned my girlfriend before I decided to marry her: she played Tenor Sax in a Jazz band and sang. I played Bari Sax. To my surprise, right after we got married she lost all interest in joining the Noisehorse band and it's been a lonely gig whenever I whip up a tune. But I keep writing more stuff she likes, and now she starts creeping into the studio when I'm playing and subtly fondling my Carbon 49 when she thinks I'm not looking. I'm still hoping she'll turn into one of those sexy girl bass players! Or not
Hope on...
Nothing like a babe with a bass!
The dude on guitar is good too. Who is that guy? ;-)
I've never seen Beck live....missed him the last two times he was in the Atlanta area. He's coming again this summer, so I hope I can make it, but I don't think Tal is playing in the band at this point.
I have nothing but admiration for anyone who does a full time job / has a family etc. and manages to create some music as well. Perhaps if the music was considered to be more of an enjoyable hobby maybe that would take away some of the angst ?
I played at home for years through the family stuff. Now my youngest is 18. I get up and practice for my conservatory exams in the morning during the week for an hour, and so avoid the evening blahs. But still, quite often in the evenings, I take the time to get going on the iPad and guitar, and it works for me. I have been more productive in the last year than ever before. Some of it is just willpower. But I no longer have kid stuff to suck my time, either.
It sure does make me happy.
Same here; full-time job, Family with toddlers = impossible to even think of producing anything.
)with the only purpose to jam around, relax, meditate....
Last year, I could manage to finish my first 2 semesters in a BA Diploma on Media Entertainment with focus on Electronic Music, early morning, late nights, weekends...I could finish, but I did not enjoy one sec of it, too much a stress to fit it in my "daily family/ children routine ", which by the way, I love it!
Now, I sold everything, I m even tired to look at my studio in the evening after work-traffic jam-kids playing!
I want to make my life extremely SIMPLE on the music side, which means an iPad with me, and a Synth (no menu diving
PS...best time to jam and get lost in some filter sweep is waking up 30 minutes before and put a midi keyboard in the bathroom
@Seangarland : There is a book everyone should read called "The War Of Art" written by the same guy who wrote Bagger Vance.. It's all about resistance and how your mind messes with you.. It's the little imp, always giving us inspiration when we know we're in no position to act.. Ask yourself if you've ever utilized every possible second creatively when you WEREN'T working.. OF COURSE the muse presents itself to you in those inopportune moments.. You're safe then..
Oh yah, that is a great book!
it got me thinking of how to really iron out a process and explore the different sizes of time that my process options can take up. Figuring out how you can be productive with even a spontaneous ten minute chunk of time can really sharpen your awareness of what you are actually doing. It is not about having the luxury of big blocks of time but how to properly accumulate and manage small fragments in a way that actually motivates creativity and conciously build off each other. in art when it comes to diddeling or doodleing, there is a difference.
For me it is something about following your dream, but also sharing experiences with others (partner, kids), living a life that's filled with meaning (not easy).
My time spent making music means little if my relationship with the other side (family) is in jeopardy. It also means little if it isn't shared with other like minded people, it does get boring pretty soon.
...and the job is a job, gotta keep things in balance.
So keep it sweet on all fronts and it will all fall into right place. None of the important things is more important than the others, they're just differently beautiful...
...and rewarding
...and feeding back into the same energy pot
...where the true inspiration comes from
He's right of course, smug bastard (I know, I know....
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As regards the more unitary tasks at hand, always remember Luca Brasi: Isolate and execute.
Well @JohnnyGoodyear I wrote this this morning and without knowing that this same afternoon I would be weathering the H storm. Definitely doesn't aid creativity but I guess with time one learns how to go through it with least damage. Pity that the same old shit comes to the surface though.
I feel your emotion seething through this post yesterday.
Solitude is a hard won ally.
Especially, when I am my harshest critic.
If I were "content" or "happy", I would not have the same passion and pain that fuel my music and art as a whole.
Anger is energy.
All hate isn't bad.
Love is difficult.
This is sort of a free association from the hip response to the thread.
This line resonated. I feel like this is my state of mind during a majority of my waking hours. The word torment seems appropriate. Thanks for sharing.
A recent realization I've found helpful is that different music making tasks require different kinds of attention. Banging on a drum kit or simply playing an instrument like Thumbjam just to play feels much lighter and effortless than composition. I find that composition and related tasks involve much more conscious thinking mental effort. More and more I've been trying to choose what I do to match my mood and available time.
Cool man. The past three years have been all about figuring out how to integrate mobile music and make something productive out of my commute that I actually like and want to listen to. Only the past month has it clicked. (Full disclaimer: had to buy a laptop, but the iPads are still a HUGE part of it.
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1.) For the iOS part, after many apps and many dollars I came up with a butt simple workflow for the walking / 'crappy train' portion of my commute and even for the occasional lunch break walking outside. I feed Patterning, Fugue Machine and Thumbjam midi into Gadget (all using Link) and just record short ten to fifteen minute jams. Happy Accident City.
2.) From here I export the midi to my PC DAW / laptop for the 'nice train' portion of the commute and cue up better sounds using Native Instruments / EastWest libraries.
3.) By the weekend I then have a couple loosely inspired rough tracks to edit for a few hours with none of the pressure of starting from scratch, staring at a 'blank canvas' or an old uninspired project. These roughs feel like they were 'free' in that they actually made the commute enjoyable and given that I was just casually killing time the performance anxiety wasn't there but the steamy goo of creative juices doth flowed.
4.) Some tracks carry over to mobile the next week where I bounce out of PC DAW Land audio tracks that I load into Cubasis for further mobile on the go overdubs, either midi from Thumbjam or straight up audio from Shoom, Animoog or Borderlands.
Note: Best thing about PC DAW Land.. it remembers all your settings. I can boot in five seconds (thanks Zenbook!) and load my project in a minute and it is all there exactly as it was last time. Thus PC DAW Land is the headquarters and the iPads are the personnel carriers / Apache helicopters etc.