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Genome Midi Sequencer Users?
Hey,
I know ModStep is very popular, but is anyone using Genome?
Bought it recently on sale. I think it still is.
I don't have much to compare it too, but so far I really like it. I've been able to figure out most of it's functionality intuitively and have successfully connected to most of my synths, etc.
The only trouble I'm having at the moment, has to do with the modwheel and various cc parameter controls. As well as the envelope draw (velocity/length/timing)
It's not that there's any issue with their function, but I'm not familiar with how they're used and how to set them up correctly in a sequence. I know you just draw on the screen, but I need a more literal explanation about what they're for and how they're used and how they're used in Genome.
I've watch a few of the tutorial videos, but they don't go into that part much and they assume you already know everything.
Does anyone have a lead on any good forums or in depth tutorials for Genome?
The learning curve hasn't been rough at all. It's just this last part. And frankly, it's so great to finally have much more control of the sound sequences etc.
Any tips on sites or videos for getting over the last Genome cc# hump? 
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I used Genome to sequence all the music to this song (besides guitar and vox, natch):
Here's a fairly recent vid from Sweetwater's good ol' Mitch Gallagher. He addresses entering MIDI data at the 3:00 mark. Hope this helps!
Soo close to buying this. Part of me says I should just buy modstep. Hmmm.
Thanks man. Awesome track too!
I'd seen that video, but I'd skimmed it before I bought. Now that I'm much more familiar with Genome, should make more sense.
WYSIWYG
I was the same way. Now that I have it, I'm glad I went this route. I don't have Modsreo to compare to, but from all the tutorials and others trying to learn it, seemed to be than what I was really after.
I'm new to this stuff, but I got synths midi connected, made patterns, sequences, imported chord progression midi files from Suggester, etc. all within a reasonable hour or so.
Guessing Modstep is deeper & more complex, but for my needs Genome has been a rock solid choice. And a bargain now too.
The dev has replied to 2 email/support questions within the same day. He says there's an update with link coming, some bug fixes/tweaks, and a couple other small improvements.
It appears it's still alive and being supported/maintained and developed.
Also, in the video above I think that's an older version. In the current version you can record midi to the piano roll, and it comes with some instruments and fx. You can either connect to external synths & hardware, or you can also use the built in instruments.
No one will say this is a bad sequencer, you know!
It is just time is a non-stop traveling.
To be honest, I wasn't sure I'd really use this much. But, I figured for the sale price I could find out if it'd be useful. So far I think I could benefit from using this on everything.
I know you are a huge Modstep advocate, and I'm sure it's a fantastic tool. It's just at this point I want something that's easy to use with less learning curve. I'd prefer to start spending more time learning what I already have intend of constantly climbing a learning curve and making very little.
I've also gotta put a cap on my app spending soon, and $6 for this nice sequencing utility was a good buy for me. Modsteps still on my watch list though, for when I feel I'm ready to play with the cool kids.
No worry, you know I am not only playing Modstep, quite a few sequencers and arp together actually. I do playing Auria too.
I do like to promote new thing, but I am certainly promoting my long term fun stuff. This app can only play part of my, not the whole, sorry to say so.
Yes, but I think you're a more advanced user than me. At this point I only want enough utility to connect stuff, and be able to compose sequences for playback. Anything that gets too much more complex than that will just be a deterrent for me.
It's like when I really want to get out there and make pure, basic photography. I don't want to be distracted by all the advanced focus-tracking settings and complex color pallete enhancement algorithms, etc. I just want a basic camera that's reliable, good resolution, and some manual focus, shutter speed and f-stop control. Just want to concentrate on the light and composition, not sophisticated complex tech.
Trust your instincts, they are giving you good advice
This looks friendly, actually. And it has at least one HUGE advantage on Modstep: an undo button.
However! As opaque as Modstep can be, it is an amazing tool for creativity. There is just something about the clip launching that is completely inspiring. I knew absolutely nothing about midi three months ago. ( as my desperate previous posts can attest. ) Modstep was intriguing enough as an instrument in its own right to make me want to learn it.
But the price is definitely right on genome.
( Seriously: how hard is an undo button? )
Of course I still don't know how to get an external drum machine going....
Think of how proud of myself I'll be when to do! (Or if Kaikoo makes me a tutorial....)
I've barely used any midi step sequencers at all before Genome. But I have seen others, and Genome's visual interface looks similar. It also looks similar to the step sequencer in Logic Pro X that I've never used.
My "logic"
may be flawed here, but if I'm going to take a little time to learn and get used to sequencing midi stuff, I'm hoping the learning will transfer to other more traditional sequencer platforms like Logic.
I also like the pattern motif and the ease of quickly arranging different sequences into patterns for easy timeline playback.
Not as "sexy" as Modstep, but it has a solid, no-nonsense feel to get the essential job done... kinda like AudioShare for sequencing.
I figured out much of the cc control last night, so the learning curve and frustration level has been very minimal.
Modstep looks like an awesome, deeper tool for controlling midi, but my current need is more straight forward sequence composition and arrangement of triggered sounds. For my needs, I'm very content and happy with Genome.
At some point I'll likely add Modstep or something like it into the mix, but for now my mix of apps has become far too cluttered. Need to focus more and Genome helps me do that.
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Genome is nice, I've heard the developpers is working on including Link.
But when I was using it, I didn't feel onfortable with the midi clock or with the UI, witch was good at the beginning...
To me Modstep is a much more stable and pro software...
But I'm sure you can do great stuff with Genome.
I prefer much more Bleep!box , one of his other app.
Well, I didn't have much to compare to. Genome had been recommended to me before and was on my appshopper watch list. I really didn't think I needed a sequencer at all and was afraid I was merely buying yet another app ONLY because it was on sale. But I've now recognized the real advantage to being able to sequence this stuff.
Modstep is quite another beast from Genome, it has instruments, a highly sophisticated MIDI, and much more. That said, Genome is a honest sequencer, and its piano roll is very handy (the keyboard that draws chords is a hit). I own and use both, maybe lately the upgraded Modstep more often.
Consider, too, that Cubasis is way easier to import and play MIDI files, and Gadget has, IMO, a better piano roll.
I'm not "there" yet, but which would be the most compatible and easy to interface with and/or import your sequences into Logic Pro X?
I'm sure midi is midi, but if you eventually wanted to use both your iPad AND your desktop Logic Pro X midi setup, which iPad midi sequencing app would be best suited for that?
Funny. Have been 'working my way back to simple' and have been playing with Beep!Player. Really enjoying it. Pity it hasn't been updated since the end of 2014, maybe nothing needs fixing, seems to work well with AB on Big Boy/latest. Love the fact that you can tune the individual beats. Sounds great running through AUFX:DUB (PingPoing Mid). Also playing nice in AUM (RM1 delay etc)....a pleasure to come back to....
That's good to hear. The dev of Genome & Bleep has been very helpful and responsive to my questions. 3 so far. Courteous & complete. Will check out his other app too. Haven't asked him about Bleep though.
+1000, too bad at the moment he's got only two apps to sell
=bleep!box is really neat easy and powerfull...with Link it would be even better...,
A short while ago I wanted to open a midi file in something, anything, on the iPad and I picked the Sox of Vun. It went in easily and there it was — the whole midi file plus instruments ready to go, in SunVox.
This way there be dragons...
I thought about that, ie. what's the big difference... but navigating those little boxes of the tracker interface can be a little awkward. Got Pixeltracker for sequencing stuff, and it's definitely easier and fun to plunk something out with.
Genome, for the sequencing part... its just easier to interface with. At least for me.
So, are you suggesting that I could peck something out that I like in Genome using the easier interface, then export the midi file and import into SunVox? Might mess around with that later.
I'm not sure if you're an OSX and Logic Pro X user, but if I was going to start using my LPX setup more, and wanted to get sequences figured out on the iPad then import the Genome midi into LPX, would any of the midi sequencers be fairly equal in this regard?
Yep, I’m much more LPX than I am iOS, for sequencing. I use the iPad 2 for a synthesiser but rarely try and multitrack on it (other than in Gadget). I find it easier to do things one at a time on the iPad 2 and bring it over to the Mac to take seriously.