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Who will make a "Kontakt" AU for iOS?
This would be a killer. With all the innovation going around on iOS I'm suprised something like this hasn't appeared yet. The IAP potential would be enormous.
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Also using up the space consumption on the hard drive. But would be nice tho.
43+GB of samples in Kontakt 10.
I was more thinking something like Kontakt Player AU for iOS, where there's not a lot of default content, just what you specifically choose.
That said I have a 256GB iPad so a 43GB core library could possibly survive.
Looking forward to terabyte iPad Pros in a couple years.
Audio unit extensions have a fairly restrictive Ram limitation per instance (less than half a gig) so until Apple changes that this will never technically work.
Thanks. Quite interesting to learn learn this. Hopefully this will be relaxed in iOS 10
Even if so, Native Instruments will never offer such an app because it would cannibalise their desktop solution. And making tons of high quality patches/sample sets is expensive, so no indy iOS developer could afford such a thing.
Sorry, it's never going to happen.
Never is a strong word ☺️. As a matter of fact I remember when I was told by a major sequencer vendor that virtual plugins would never happen on the desktop.
What I hope and expect is the iOS platform will mature enough in a few years to support the proper pricing of high quality assets.
I'm not sure "canibalize the desktop" is a good argument: FabFilter seems to be happy to offer its expensive mastering plugins on iOS for a fraction of their Desktop price tag.
As long as iOS music remains its own niche (I don't foresee for a while any pro studio switching to iOS from their Pro Tools systems) and, more important, as long as software piracy remains under control on iOS - let's concede that sandboxing, the App Store model etc. are perfect for this - so they can use the smaller price tag to seduce a larger public that more often than not resort to cracked software on the Desktop side - I'm talking about the hobbyists or "prosumers" - I think some large developer companies could be happy to give it a go.
P.S.: and if Native Instruments doesn't do it, perhaps other developer can create a sampler that reads and edits advanced sample libraries in other formats, such as EXS. In fact, the solution already exists and it's called Lyra. Unfortunately, it's only a player for now, and it's available only inside Auria Pro.
Let's not be so pessimistic about AU extensions but it doesn't have to be that anyway, it could use IAA and audiobus, in a few years maybe as storage it's starting to become a nonissue with a 256GB storage option and I bet there will be a 512 GB option in a few years, RAM it's also becoming a nonissue although slowly, iOS it's maturing regardless of Apple screwing up software updates, and the iPad Pro (both but specially the 12.9 version) it's a great device already just limited by its software. There's also rumors that changes are coming to the AppStore, so price and update may not be what they are right now. It's not like it's going to happen tomorrow but saying never it's extreme, a few years ago people thought that creating music on your phone was never going to happen.
Kontakt alternatives.......MOTU MachFive 3.............. Or UVI Workstation onto IOS?...... Maybe?
RAM is not an issue if you can stream from the disk like Auria Pro does with Lyra.
You know this is one of those things you're going get sent back to you, right? Now, it might be in ten years or more and you'll be on your lawn firing an air rifle at empty beer cans and passing children, but still....
Desktops are starting to look a lot more like tablets. How long until that line is blurred so much that it's all the same platform?
When Apple gets married Microsoft.
When the iPad Pro Pro runs OSX
Ouch exhale is £163 and Realivox blue is $130 And folks complain about app prices eeeek.
Tis true, that line is blurring. i just got an Asus Zenbook running Windows. I just love how thin and light it is. No fan and it boots in five seconds. It feels more like an iPad than any PC I have used.
((Nice thing is I load a heavy track in a Daw in fifteen seconds and all the synths are set up just where I left them, multiple instances with no settings to plead with etc. Sure, it is the classic keyboard/screen sandwich and no touch screen but all I do is plug my iPad mini in with the lightning cable and it is off to the races with Studiomux sending Fugue Machine, Patterning and Thumbjam midi. Works like a charm every time.))
Anyway, point being I am running Kontakt on the Zenbook and it is super easy to imagine it living all on that ipad mini in about ten years.
A major factor to consider with Kontakt like flow on iOS is the size of the device and its resources. Sophisticated applications with lots of screens are really suited for a larger screen. In addition they are more niche, cost more to develop, support, and update. Their brand is dependent upon meeting the higher expectations of its users. Since iOS is updated every year where is the stability needed to develop for iOS?
The main markets driving iOS sales are media browsing and gaming which don't necessarily have the same hardware and OS needs as sophisticated music apps. Indeed, iPad sales are flattening so Apple is likely to turn to some other technology with more growth potential to satisfy the shareholders. Frankly, I see Apple as being more likely to reinvent Apple Watch or TV into products the public is clamoring for than to invest in an increasingly saturated tablet market.
It may turn out to be the case that iOS may merge with OSX, be replaced with some other technology, or that Pro users may never see iOS as a viable solution given the sandbox and file management restrictions of iOS. Recreating niche sophisticated desktop music flows on iOS seems more of an exercise in wishful thinking than something that's likely to happen with a company focused on opening mass market technologies.
Not looking for a complete replica of today's Kontakt. Just some basics
Rather a Disk streaming AU sampler that with a rack-like interface, and a progressive attitude towards encouraging 3rd party library development. Let users pick and choose what libraries to load on their device
Perhaps an approach similar to Synthmaster player but as an AU and optionally exposing more parameters.
I was on the original Kontakt Alpha/Beta team and recall how NI gradually rose to dominance by seizing the future of plug-in samplers while the competition dismissed the category until it was too late. ☺️
Regarding yearly iOS updates let's not forget that OSX is updated yearly as well.
I think VR tech is going to be huge in pushing mobile real-time sound tech. In the end if it is iOS or some other mobile tech player, doesn't really matter to me but it seems inevitable that Kontakt like libraries will show up in some mobile form soon enough. But everyone's idea of 'soon' differs and people tend not to give timelines in these discussions.