Led Zeppelin Wins

Tritonman

The title is self explanatory I guess.

fjcblanco

Next trial: Pope Francisco demands AC/DC for "Hell Bells " intro.

Frank

Just goes to show that jury's are idiots.

knewspeak

Music has been around a very long time... A sine of time.

JeffChasteen

Do not mess with Lord Dragonpants.

Oblique

This is definitely the biggest news of the day ...

AudioGus

It definitely seems like it was inspired by the Spirit track and that it had a degree of structural and stylistic influence. We are sorry to report to the post-hippie-blues rock fanboys that Stairway was not made in a vaccuum, shocking!

Sidenote: when you watch a late night show like Conan and they play a referential 'don't sue us' variant of a song it sounds a lot like the difference between Taurus and Stairway. If the notes don't fit yah gotta acquit.

busker

...and in other, less important news, Britain wins!

Frank

i would like to say,that its most schocking to me that the lads of LZ (you know those millionairs) wouldnt admitt to the obvious and share some of the wealth,somewhere down the line,they must have become to believe they where originals.(english white boys)

JeffChasteen

@Frank said:
i would like to say,that its most schocking to me that the lads of LZ (you know those millionairs) wouldnt admitt to the obvious and share some of the wealth,somewhere down the line,they must have become to believe they where originals.(english white boys)

Castle upkeep is ungodly expensive, you know.

Crawlingwind

Understatement of the day!

@DD829 said:

I can hear the similarity in the lick and Page had a history of stealing licks / phrases.

Frank

@Crawlingwind said:
Understatement of the day!

@DD829 said:

I can hear the similarity in the lick and Page had a history of stealing licks / phrases.

I hope that everybody knows that Spirit where the opening act for the LZ tour 12 months before they recorded STH

hacked_to_pieces

Sonata di Chittarra, e Violino, con il suo Basso Continuo uses the same chord progression and was written in the 1600's

Crawlingwind

I loved Spirit - their albums were fantastic! A lot of people are just now hearing of them. I got to see them live in a later incarnation as a trio - great show - they opened with 1984 and I was gone...

Frank

@hacked_to_pieces said:
Sonata di Chittarra, e Violino, con il suo Basso Continuo use the same chord progression and was written in the 1600's

True enough (there are only so many progressions to begin with)but I am sure thats not what inspired LZ,and what did inspire them is obvious,shame on them for not giving credit(and€$)

Martygras

That tears it. I'm stealing16th century pieces from now on.

wim

I pride myself on the fact that many of the same notes in my songs have also been used by no less than the likes of Mozart, Kieth Emerson, Frank Zappa, Deadmau5, and Weird Al. I'll have to check if Led Zeppelin has used any of them. Probably.

fjcblanco

If we start to check it out, I wonder how many songs include the first four notes from Beethoven 5th symphony.

wim

The guy that first used the 12-bar blues progression could sue just about every musician on the planet.

... or maybe whoever came up with this progression

theconnactic

@Frank said:

@hacked_to_pieces said:
Sonata di Chittarra, e Violino, con il suo Basso Continuo use the same chord progression and was written in the 1600's

True enough (there are only so many progressions to begin with)but I am sure thats not what inspired LZ,and what did inspire them is obvious,shame on them for not giving credit(and€$)

Regardless of who inspired who, nobody should be charged (not to say sued) for a chord progression, since most if not all of them are well established since, say, two centuries?

Sensible decision by the court. Hope it set a tendency, since music is old, but the music industry is relatively new, and it must not be sufocated by copyright trolls (something that already happens in the tech industry) taking advantage of stupid rulings by people who doesn't really know or care about music and musicians, like the Gaye state vs. Thicke and Farrel crap. (worth noting that the plaintiffs are usually people that had never ever wrote a single word or note).

u0421793

…but they do own several vintage telecasters, all mint condition unplayed.

AudioGus

@Crawlingwind said:
I loved Spirit - their albums were fantastic! A lot of people are just now hearing of them. I got to see them live in a later incarnation as a trio - great show - they opened with 1984 and I was gone...

I can't walk through an alley without 'Fresh Garbage' in my head.

funjunkie27

12 Dreams! I fell asleep to this lovely lp many a night.

Crawlingwind

In the 70's I had a Led Zeppelin 2lp bootleg record, and they did a cover of Fresh Garbage. Hmmm..............

@AudioGus said:

@Crawlingwind said:
I loved Spirit - their albums were fantastic! A lot of people are just now hearing of them. I got to see them live in a later incarnation as a trio - great show - they opened with 1984 and I was gone...

I can't walk through an alley without 'Fresh Garbage' in my head.

knewspeak

It's good that it raises interest into the cyclical creation of music and also the not so cyclical flow of wealth.

BiancaNeve

@busker said:
...and in other, less important news, Britain wins!

Wins what? The booby prize or a Darwin Award?

oat_phipps

@wim said:
The guy that first used the 12-bar blues progression could sue just about every musician on the planet.

... or maybe whoever came up with this progression

Ah, the ole T-progression

I'll always prefer the D-Bm-G-A variant for pop songs

AudioGus

@knewspeak said:
It's good that it raises interest into the cyclical creation of music and also the not so cyclical flow of wealth.

in the end the music is only a small part of the product as well.

Will

Not trying to stir shit but I wonder if the folks who see this as a fair ruling see sampling in the same basic light.

Tritonman

@theconnactic said:

@Frank said:

@hacked_to_pieces said:
Sonata di Chittarra, e Violino, con il suo Basso Continuo use the same chord progression and was written in the 1600's

True enough (there are only so many progressions to begin with)but I am sure thats not what inspired LZ,and what did inspire them is obvious,shame on them for not giving credit(and€$)

Regardless of who inspired who, nobody should be charged (not to say sued) for a chord progression, since most if not all of them are well established since, say, two centuries?

Sensible decision by the court. Hope it set a tendency, since music is old, but the music industry is relatively new, and it must not be sufocated by copyright trolls (something that already happens in the tech industry) taking advantage of stupid rulings by people who doesn't really know or care about music and musicians, like the Gaye state vs. Thicke and Farrel crap. (worth noting that the plaintiffs are usually people that had never ever wrote a single word or note).

Inspirational words, thanks for sharing them with us.. Oh , and the doggy in my pic here turned three yesterday, happy birthday to Ashton!

theconnactic

Happy birthday, Ashton!