AUM MIDI Sync Question

mkell424

Hello all. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on AUM but I have a few questions first. Basically I am trying to find a way to improve the sync of two or more apps to Auria Pro or Cubasis.

1) It has always been hard to sync apps to sequencers. Does running the sequencer/DAW outside of AUM solve this problem?

2) Any internal AUM MIDI features that help sync apps to a MIDI source? Can you run a DAW inside of AUM?

3) Some examples of this working?

Thanks!

Korakios

It depends on the app. Those who support IAA sync will stay synced within AUM and respond to Aum's transport . But keep in mind that if you try to change the tempo on the fly ,it will not work. You have to stop AUM and start it again.
If the app only supports midi clock then it will not sync with AUM because AUM currently does not transmit midi clock.
Ableton Link is the best for syncing apps together but there is a major drawback :
You have to manually press "start" on every single Linked app . Inside Audiobus Linked app respond to AB's transport which is great.

pierre

Changing the tempo on the fly works with sector, but not with funk drummer( both iaa sync)

[Deleted User]

I really can't think of a scenario where AUM would have a sync advantage over Cubasis or Auria Pro unless Link sync would work or is needed for your purposes as both of the DAWs have IAA host sync capabilities. If the IAA apps don't have the ability to sync to an IAA host sync app but can receive MIDI, then you can use an IAA sequencing app that will sync to an IAA host to control them so that the sequencer, synth app, and DAW will all be in sync.

You could do a similar sort of sync with a Link enabled sequencer and have the non-IAA host syncable apps hosted inside AUM and then route the output directly into a Cubasis track or Auria Pro if it offers similar functionality, yet even in this scenario you wouldn't need AUM unless there is an app or effect app you're trying to sync with the sequence which has Link sync and the on beat type Link sync works versus the traditional DAW transport controls which are timeline and bpm based (this maybe a rare occasion for many people).

Alternatively, if an app has neither IAA host sync or Link sync but has an acceptable response to MIDI clock, you could use an app like Link to MIDI to sync the sequencer to the Link enabled synth and sequencer. I've found this to be useful if I have a MIDI sequencer which doesn't have Link or IAA host sync which I want to use in a setup which includes Link sync'd apps (e.g. Lemur).

How can you tell if an IAA synth, effect, or sequencer app will sync to an IAA host? If the bpm in the app changes to match the bpm of the app that's hosting it.

These situations are variations of the form:
If A=B and B=C then A=C.
A is a non-IAA host sync-able IAA synth app which can be controlled via MIDI
B is MIDI sequencer app with IAA which can sync to an IAA host
C is an IAA host app
The equal signs represent how the two apps are synced:
for A=B it's MIDI in the form of MIDI messages sent from the sequencer to the synth
for B=C it's the sequencer synced to the bpm of the IAA host app and hopefully transport controls too.
for A=C, the IAA host app is controlling the rate at which MIDI is being sent to the synth via MIDI sent from the sequencer.
Note there is no MIDI clock sync going on here, just IAA host sync.

In Link scenario it's similar, just substitute Link sync for IAA host sync and/or MIDI sync, if the synth app has MIDI and Link. Once again this scenario involves no MIDI clock sync, just Link sync.

mkell424

Thanks for the advice. I can see why this would be great for live performances but I like to edit the MIDI after the performance. I guess what it comes down to what works and if I use it enough to justify the $18. We're not at a point where sync works with everything. Thanks.