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Are there Cream tutorials around?

edited July 2016 in General App Discussion

I googled and looked for them in Youtube. All I can find are a pair of very short videos and some more, very general in information, on the desktop plugin. What I need to know better is the use of Cream in Modstep and/or Cubasis, if any. The manual is not very helpful. Thank you

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  • Still nothing :'( The Captain, where are you?

  • @zarv said:
    Still nothing :'( The Captain, where are you?

    If you search The Captain's posts you will find much to be learned.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @zarv said:
    Still nothing :'( The Captain, where are you?

    If you search The Captain's posts you will find much to be learned.

    It's the first thing that occurred to me, but when I search "The Captain" or "kaikoo2" what comes is an unwieldy lot of citations, posts or threads together :/

  • edited July 2016

    I wish I could give you something but the truth is that there is uncompatible issue, which I don't know how to between Cream and Modstep for other apps.

    I prefer you play Cream with AUM keyboard to other apps.

    Or, just go and have some fun with Cream and Korg Gadget.

    You can manually control the Cream with Gadget playhead. In fact, Gadget now is quite manually movable for the midi data. I can record some very interesting bass synth sound to Gadget with side chaining, it is subtle that arpeggiator such as Cream capable of doing, so take your time to it.

  • @zarv said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @zarv said:
    Still nothing :'( The Captain, where are you?

    If you search The Captain's posts you will find much to be learned.

    It's the first thing that occurred to me, but when I search "The Captain" or "kaikoo2" what comes is an unwieldy lot of citations, posts or threads together :/

    Perhaps clever google search modifiers using 'Cream' and 'Kaikoo2' will help. Not smart enough to know the exact syntax off hand, but probably not hard to figure out...

  • A quick photos for you.

    Gadget on advanced external midi in. With the Cream hold button, any one touch of the Cream internal keyboard you will have the Gadget playhead moving. When you ready, use red button to arm Gadget with.

    Use Cream's 12 pattern buttons to copay and paste tracks.

  • Thanks Captain. I'm eager to try it :)

  • Yep... one needs a PHD in IPadology to play that thing....

    Bring it on Nora...

  • edited July 2016

    @zarv said:
    Thanks Captain. I'm eager to try it :)

    Hi Zarv,

    I just tested Cubasis for you.

    This is 2nd time I practice Cream on Cubasis. I should say Cubasis now is becoming quite user friendly. Both midi input and output from Cream, this is because you should use Cubasis keyboard for arp instead of Cream's own.

  • @Kaikoo2 said:
    I wish I could give you something but the truth is that there is uncompatible issue, which I don't know how to between Cream and Modstep for other apps.

    I prefer you play Cream with AUM keyboard to other apps.

    Hi @Kaikoo2. After working my way through your tutorials on using StepPolyArp, ChordPolyPad, Midisteps and FugueMachine with Modstep I was going to have a crack at Cream. I wanted to use ModStep to record midi data generated my Cream.

    If ModStep is not suitable, which app would you recommend for recording Cream's midi data, besides Gadget? Can any midi I record in Gadget be exported?

  • edited July 2016

    If I can get the markdown to work correctly....link.

  • edited July 2016

    Eh...so much for that, but the link works.

    Edit - had an extra space in there. Now it works as expected.

  • Does Animoog record midi? And can that midi (notes) then be opened elsewhere (Cubasis, ModStep) etc?

  • @zarv,

    I prefer not to have Cream sending clock to Animoog. You need manual adjust Animoog bpm. Only has Cubasis clock to Cream. It is 'burden' for host send clock to Cream then cream again send it's own clock to app.

    @markk,

    I do not find Modstep and Cream matching well. Cream has no problems for me.

    The difficulty to drive Cream is that the 3rd party app needs to send start and stop command, and keyboard command and hold button command and chord.

    Until now, I don't think any good app can do fulfilling job to handle all task. Most likely you will encounter troubles for setup.

    So I prefer you put both Cream and apps on AUM input slots as mentioned above.

  • Thanks for saving me some heartburn, @Kaikoo2 :)

  • edited July 2016

    Hopefully Cubasis v. 2.00 has good piano roll editor and a good method for expanding/shrinking the track window.

    If Cubasis has that Gadget piano roll editor! Let"s roll the dices. ;)

  • @Kaikoo2 said:

    Hi Zarv,

    I just tested Cubasis for you.

    This is 2nd time I practice Cream on Cubasis. I should say Cubasis now is becoming quite user friendly. Both midi input and output from Cream, this is because you should use Cubasis keyboard for arp instead of Cream's own.

    It does work like a charm. Thank you.
    I feel a bit sorry for the Modstep problem, but I realise that we cannot have everything in a single shot.
    Cream is amazing. Countless days of experimenting open up
    Besides, what do you think of Enkl? I was unimpressed by it as a VST, but now I hear that it is AU and that may be interesting

  • @zarv said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:

    Hi Zarv,

    I just tested Cubasis for you.

    This is 2nd time I practice Cream on Cubasis. I should say Cubasis now is becoming quite user friendly. Both midi input and output from Cream, this is because you should use Cubasis keyboard for arp instead of Cream's own.

    It does work like a charm. Thank you.
    I feel a bit sorry for the Modstep problem, but I realise that we cannot have everything in a single shot.
    Cream is amazing. Countless days of experimenting open up
    Besides, what do you think of Enkl? I was unimpressed by it as a VST, but now I hear that it is AU and that may be interesting

    I like Enkl, I love NS1 sequencing morph in real time. Trust me, NS1 is so much fun with its morphing on sequencer.

  • @kaikoo2 said:

    ...I love NS1 sequencing morph in real time. Trust me, NS1 is so much fun with its morphing on sequencer.

    I'm yet to be overwhelmed with NS1. Will investigate morphing.

  • edited July 2016

    @markk said:

    @kaikoo2 said:

    ...I love NS1 sequencing morph in real time. Trust me, NS1 is so much fun with its morphing on sequencer.

    I'm yet to be overwhelmed with NS1. Will investigate morphing.

    me too, before the buying.

    Do you really want to know why I am not so much a fan on Enkl besides the morph thing?

    when you touch any knobs and slider, you will know what is sicking
    for feeling. It is the user friendly interface that separate apart the better and worse. NS1 is such a comfort.

  • Hey, I'm trying to get my head around cream and I seem to be getting some inconsistencies or bugs when trying to trigger through my nanokeys within AUM. In particular the hold mode behaves very strangely. Sometimes it will hold until pressing the same note again and also holds the first note when playing another one and then without doing any changes it will do what I actually want, by holding even if I repeat the same note and moving on to the next played one without holding the first one. This should be two different hold modes, right? But it's changing randomly between the two. And there's more weirdness, which I can't seem to put my finger on now. Am I the first guy to experience this random bugginess?

  • edited September 2016

    @Munibeast
    just to be clear , are you only playing one track per midichannel ,
    or are you sharing zones of the keyboard across different tracks on same channel ?
    If sharing zones on same channel, so one key is assigned to 2 or more tracks , it creates problems with the hold function .
    edit // the onscreen keyboard shows which tracks each key will play , so e.g C3 (1,2 ) means C3 will play both tracks 1 & 2 .

  • Hmm, I didn't get the 4 track IAP yet, if that's what you mean, so I think it should be 1 track.

  • edited September 2016

    @Munibeast yes that's what I meant . ok , well that rules that possibilty out .

    next most probable cause is playing style , I also get occassional hiccups as Cream engine is sensitive to interpreting note on/ off & lengths & It seems I actually play more legato than I think .
    but to clarify Cream HOLD function requires a note off for each held note , so if you've played CEG you need to play CEG again to stop each/all notes playing .
    alternatively , you can midilearn a button or footswitch to the Cream HOLD button to turn it off /on , ( or use the hold function /footswitch of your keyboard if it has one ) so you dont need to play the "OFF- chord" .

  • edited September 2016

    Thanks for explaining, but that's exactly where it seems to have a bug. I'll try it on another iPad to see if it happens there as well. I do like cream but it definitely requires reading the manual. I hope I can get this to work reliably live with my midi bass pedal. The problem is that the transpose button in the hold section doesn't seem to stick sometimes.

  • that's a bit of a scary thought to me at the moment , as I've been having a few midi issues with IOS generally recently .

    although it's possible the bass pedal will be less problematic to Cream HOLD engine if sending a single note per press than chords .

    I have been meaning to play with Cream & a footpedal , as there are a couple of ways it could be used , either switching patterns or using Chordmem Trigger . It's on my list of things I'd like to cover in my much delayed hopes of a video series .

    So I 'd be happy to discuss this further ...
    ( but must sign off for tonight)

  • Cream seems to be on the cheap at the moment:

  • Aw man I've been waiting for kaikoo3 for ages now

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Aw man I've been waiting for kaikoo3 for ages now

    Golden age, long gone, much missed....

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