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Would these apps work on iOS 9.3.3? Share your knowledge please
Okay, a few words, firstly. iPad is 3rd gen iPad, which now has 7.1.2 iOS. I thought i would just keep it as it is, on iOS7, but there are some nice apps who need iOS8 at least, and there is a problem that i wanna get rid of "OTHER" data from my device which is ~5 Gb now, which is crazy big considering that model is 16 Gb one (which is more like 12 Gb, so in the end i loose half of available space); i know that i need to reset to factory and then restore from iTunes, but from what i heard, iTunes wouldnt let me restore to same old 7.1.2; That, and that some sweet apps dont support it anymore. As i'm in huge fear of iOS10, i guess i need to update to iOS9 before iOS10 comes out officialy as final standard. While i heard that iPad 3 like mine work OK on iOS9, i dont think it would be better on 10, also i'm not fond of those new features and changes they promise to bring with it, so i guess 9.3.3 would be safest variant for me. I heard also bad stories, but i've been told that "reset -> restore" is best way so my old weak 3rd gen iPad would be ok enough; anyway i remember how fast and smooth it was on iOS 5.1.1 and how on iOS6 it became a bit worse. Though, NOT THAT MUCH as iPod Touch 2G on 4.2.1 //EDIT: Oh, looks like iOS10 won't be even possible on it - haha, still another reason to be on iOS9 because more and more new apps will support it longer than 7, right?
Well, now i'll put a list of some apps which status i wanna know (hope i dont forget anything... by the way, some apps disappeared completely so i cant even find them in "purchased" tab, like WaveShaper app or Stochastic Deum Machine so i wont mention it). For some, the question is whether they work at all? For others, how good do they work?
//SYNTHS
Jasuto - confirmed
Bebot Robot Synth - confirmed
MorphWiz - confirmed
YUMI:synth - confirmed
Organ+ - confirmed
Sunrizer - confirmed
SynthTronica - need to load 2x times
Addictive Synth - confirmed
Cassini - confirmed
76 Synthesizer - confirmed
WaveGenerator - confirmed
Impaktor - confirmed
Audulus 2.10.3 - confirmed
//GROOVEBOXES or STUDIOS + DRUMS
bleep!BOX - confirmed
NanoStudio - confirmed
nanoloop - confirmed
WerkBench - confirmed
LoopSeque - confirmed, some bugs
PixiTracker - confirmed
Spoke Groove Machine - ?
NodeBeat HD - N/A, look for NodeBeat
//INSTRUMENTS or CONTROLLERS
Little Midi Machine - N/A
Arpeggionome (first version, before PRO) - ?
Muza - confirmed
Tachyon -?
Petites Ondes - N/A
Beatsurfing - ?
Orphion - confirmed
Gestrument - confirmed
SpaceWiz - ?
Ellatron - N/A
Portable Dandy - confirmed, i guess
//UNIQUE
JR Hexatone - doesn't work properly
Samplr - confirmed
ExtraSlice - loads, not sure if works as intended
Curtis for iPad - N/A, confirmed
GlitchMachine - confirmed
CP 1919 - confirmed
Borderlands Granular - confirmed
Donut - ?
TOPLAPapp - ?
RISCy - confirmed
//FX
Loop Twister - N/A
Filtatron - confirmed
- Did i mention some apps you never knew?3 votes
- Yeah, some66.67%
- No, i remember them all33.33%
Comments
That's all i've got from your list
Thanks, and i'll be updating OP with that in case anyone else would be interested too.
Another issue might be how well the iPad 3 runs under iOS 9.3.3. An iPad 2 is slow as molasses for pretty much everything on iOS 9.
Yeah, i'm still considering it, though people say that 3rd gen runs better because it has more RAM. I'm alo interested how IAA and other ios8-9 things eat power.
Please don't update your iPad 3. I deeply regret updating past 7.12. Went from being able to run a couple gadgets to having to freeze anything beyond 2 gadgets. Basic gist is.... 32bit devices are much faster at 7.12 than 8+. I eventually bought an air2 due to how terrible the ipad3 became.
That 8.x.x. perfomance was garbage, i heard, were you trying with 9.x.x. too?
Well, as i said, i will be still on 7 if itunes would let me back up and restore as i want to clean my device from stuff eats too much place which is left because of bad syncs and when ipad autodownloaded system which i never installed (if u remember how apple made you dload ios8 without ur permission). It's just people say me that as apple no longer "signing" 7.1.2, u cant use it in my case if i erase and restore device.
(Though , still, also depends on whether smth really needed for me will abandon 7.1 support)
Sunrizer
Addictive
Cassini
Jasuto
Morphwiz
76 Synth
WaveGenerator
Audulus 2s
Samplr
Borderlands
bleep!BOX
Nanoloop
all good
I would advise to keep what you have and do not update the app/IOS....... Them go treat yourself to a new shiny one after this Sept(after Apple announcements)......... & then join our Revolution, when announce IOS 10, comes out.........
If it all goes tits up, you can go back to you old iPad & enjoy the music you make until things get solved(if it goes "Pete Tong") on the next edition of the IOS upgrade. ........... At least it won't be too painful?....... But fingers crossed....... 
....... The old saying is....... " if it's not broke?........ Don't fix it!"...... 
I'm on air 2 with 9.3.1 so not bang up to date, but I have most the apps, was going to post yesterday but got distracted binge watching stranger things on netflix, lots of my favourite 80's childhood films wraped up in a sci-fi series:)
On to the list
Yumi - yes
Organ+ - yes
Synthtronica - had to load it twice but yes
Loopseque - yes
Spoke groove machine - I have the strange agency spoke, loads but not sure if fully functional
NodebeatHD - yes, but I'm sure they have just moved to nodebeat now which is universal
Little midi machine - loads but never tested it with midi
Muza - yes
Beatsurfing - loads can make templates but never tested them in action
Orphion - yes
Portable dandy - have an iphone app called dandy, green and white with gears works
JR hexatone - loads but plays no sound, sure the samples are missing
Extraslice - yes but sounds distorted, can't remember if that's how it's sposed to sound
Curtis - yes
Glitchmachine - yes
Cp 1919 - yes
Donut - loads but I'm not sure how to use it, don't tell anyone, so not sure if 100%
Riscy - yes, sure I also had toplapapp but can't find it.
Stochastic drum machine works but has no play button, can play the boxes and export but can't play a sequence. My advice as someone who had a ipad 3 and gave it to munchie, keep it as is and save all your app packages that you use from itunes and make a copy to a spare hd. I'm gutted about quite a few apps I've lost as you can record system audio to a mac now, so I can use the old apps that didn't have audio export without using a soundcard, I was using io dock before.
Yeah, it's very disappointing that AppStore no more keeps on servers apps that are pulled off from it, but you bought them. I used to backup on PC but it's annoying when app has different versions etc.
Thanks on input about whether they work.
A 32-bit iPad - like an iPad 3 - will be better off on 7.1.2 and older app ipas than on 9.3.X. If you had already updated to 8 or earlier 9, then you would be better off on 9.3.X because 9.3 fixes performance issues that were present in all 8 and earlier 9. However, 32-iPads on 7.1.2 with older ipas still work better than the same iPad on 9.3.X (i.e. better performance).
Conversely, 64-bit iPads (Air 1 and above, mini 2 and above) work better with 9.3.X than any 8 or earlier 9, and appear to even have better performance in certain cases than on 7.1.2.
I have updated all my 64-bit devices to 9.3 (I was a 7.1.2 holdout until 9.3 came out - even on 64-bit devices).
I did update one mini 1 from 7.1.2 to 9.3. It's performance is slower. I left the other mini 1on 7.1.2 and will not be updating it.
Only because I was beta testing some things that required iOS 8 did I update an iPad 3 to iOS 8. Immediately its performance was worse than 7.1.2 . That performance has improved somewhat by updating to 9.3 but is still not what it was on 7.1.2
My advice: if you have older app ipas on 7.1.2, keep your iPad 3 on 7.1.2, and if you want to use later apps, get a later iPad like a mini 2or Air 1 or above (can be had 2nd hand / refurb for a lot less than new - and still able to run most current software including Model 15.)
@Qmishery Loopseque is working. Had an export freeze (just once), but ran through most of the features and all seems still in order. What a great pity is it that this thing never really got the traction that it probably deserves. Can do a lot and do it easily. Hasn't been really updated for some time and the developer doesn't appear to have anything else in the stable. Wonder if they're working on anything....? (IPad Pro)
Got loopseque years ago when they offered it for free. Hardly used it, remember the interface was also cricular as patterning. Downloading it now to give it another try.
I always got the feeling that the older iPads I had ran faster. Probably also to to the GUI animations of later versions of iOS.
I have a vague recollection that ios10 will be for 64bit iDevices only. iOS9.3.3 will be the last for 32bit devices, including the iPad3.
I have a "Lemon" (aka iPad3) too and I'd rather have stayed on iOS7.1.2. TestFlight forced me to iOS8 (a disaster) and a necessary rebuild forced me to iOS9. iOS9 is OK but I was happiest on iOS7.1.2. YMMV.
I have my ipad 3 on 9.3.2 currently. It's better than 8 but terrible compared to 7.1.2. Roughly half the performance. I honestly would recommend you stay on 7.
If Apple gives you lemons (now there's a thought), make music-aide with them
Both of my iPad 3's - which would have been better keeping on 7.1.2 as I said above - are nonetheless still hard at work in my studio rig (via an iCM2+ and an iCM4+) running 9.3.2, right alongside my mini 1's. Still doing duty. Not getting thrown away...
Here I have either an iPad 3 or a mini 1 that's hooked up via an iCM2+
Here, another iPad 3 and another mini 1 that are hooked up via an iCM4+
I also still have an iPad 1 that's used for sequencing - here running Thesys as one example of several sequencers I still have on it, and then via an iRig MIDI 1 into the iCM2+ controlling anything else attached to the Mac, including analog and VA synths, and the other iPads.
But it will also quite happily still run a bunch of things too
... like the Studio Live Remote
for monitoring and controlling the 16.0.2 I put in the studio recently.
or a bunch of other things still too
(although I mainly use it for the above two purposes )
How much perfomence decreased in "heavy weight" music apps like Auria, modulars or when you do something realtime with Audiobus?
For me, I agree with @gonekrazy3000, finger-in-the wind figure of about 1/2.
Oh, i see. Thanks everyone for posts, i'll try to stay on 7 then; as for opening post, i updated list with answers, if anyone has something to add to it i'll update it again.
Some further investigation... Looks like Hexatone misses samples even on older iOS too if you download it through appstore purchased tab (i dont know why it is still here, but it was at least now for me). However, if you have relatively older backup on your PC, get it on device from there, and on start Hexatone unpacks samples.
That's what i just tested on iOS 7.1.2 after reinstalling everything, so i don't know how it would be on 8.x.x or 9.x.x or even 10.x.x; My thought is that files on appstore servers were messed up, maybe just when Amidio's properties were bought out by zCage stuff who remastered/updated them (Seline, Mint.Io, Futulele are working again because of that, not sure if they ll remake/update Hexatone too, though they abandon older OS in those updates).
@Qmishery, thanks for the tip, I have earlier backups of apps on an old external hd, I'll see if I can find an old copy and try it out. If that doesn't work I might try extracting the samples off my old ipad 1 and see if I can put them on the air2, I remember tho, ios blocking access to the file system after 8 I think.
Thinking about it though I might just use my ipad 1 again for my old apps, as it's been a while since I fired it up, just stick it back into my iodock to get audio out. I really wish I never updated the ipad3 to ios 8, as I'm about to re-inherit it again.
Oh, please write about results you'll get
Hm, at least you can install many that i can't on 7
though wonder how they would work.
Yeah that's always the trade off on ios, keep your system stable and have access to your old apps or dip into all the newer great stuff that comes out. I caved in with my old ipad 3, but I had this feeling just as I'd updated it and switched it on again, that I'd just wronged myself, I thought it would pass, but my ipad would never be the same again, but the strange thing is on ios 8 stochastic drum machine started working again.
I'll have a go at rescuing hexatone on the weekend and post up my experiences/troubles, it all still seems to be working on 9 apart from the samples.
I appreciate all of Derek's research and knowledge on the latest few iOS updates. I have been so trepidacious to update my Air 2 from 8.4 to any update afterwards as the breakdowns, bugs and horror stories quite frankly scared the s*** out of me.
Well, after some deliberation and thorough research I have updated to iOS 9.3.3. I was bummed about missing out on some of the newer apps & updates (that new $0.99 tape delay app was the final straw for me) and for as much caution I had moving up to iOS 9 I even more so for iOS 10. I believe once these iDevices start to get farther and farther away from the OS they were designed on/for and shipped with the worse off the performance of the device will be.
Derek's point and other's experience I've read about where 32bit architecture is pushed to the limits by 64bit optimized OS's is a prime example. I know the Air 2 is not ancient and still has good specs, but I am freezing here at 9.3.3. I know Air 2's are 64bit but I fear Apple will try to save their recent sales & stock slumps by really going hard for iOS 10 and the next gen iPhones & iPads. To me there is a line of deliniation that will be similar to the first few generations of iPads & minis not going beyond iOS 7 if slowdowns and bugs are to be avoided.
But as far as iOS 9.3.3 it seems to be working fine. All my go to app's work and tomorrow I'll test it with my Tascam US-2x2 interface to see if all works there. Aside from audio production I really like the new keyboard, finally Apple just makes it easy with lower case labeling. The new app switcher seems fine and the split screen stuff works great. I will of course write another novella here if everything goes haywire.
Be cool...
Well, i guess it's powerful enough for 9.x.x., unlike older ones, heh.
And feel free to write about how your apps work in it, if you 'll have to say something.
To be fair. If you have a 64bit device. Basically an Air 1 or mini 2 and up 9.3+ is better than 7. Only 32bit devices benefit from 7.1.2.