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Which moog?

Now that the dust has settled, let me ask: if you could afford just one moog synth, you go for Animoog or Model15? I know, I know, this has been already asked for, but now should there be many around well into the use of both

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  • Two of the best iOS synths. I just wouldn't make the choice. They are so different, yet both essential in my opinion.

  • Model 15 for me every time. I like Animoog, but the Model 15 is easier to tweak (for me anyway) and has that proper massive Moog sound. Essential I reckons.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    Model 15 for me every time. I like Animoog, but the Model 15 is easier to tweak (for me anyway) and has that proper massive Moog sound. Essential I reckons.

    +1. Very true, I love both of these essential synths, but if I have to choose only one, it would be the Model 15 - there is no doubt for me that he sonic possibilities are endless; almost every time I open this app I find new directions and end up saving new patches. Plus the addition of the arpeggiator, along with the powerful audio and midi bridges means it plays nicely with other apps and sequencers. Model 15 is my #1 synth choice.

  • I've got both but if I had to choose I would go for Model 15.
    They are totally different and as such deserve a place in any respectable iOS synth-collection :)

  • @amarok said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Model 15 for me every time. I like Animoog, but the Model 15 is easier to tweak (for me anyway) and has that proper massive Moog sound. Essential I reckons.

    +1. Very true, I love both of these essential synths, but if I have to choose only one, it would be the Model 15 - there is no doubt for me that he sonic possibilities are endless; almost every time I open this app I find new directions and end up saving new patches. Plus the addition of the arpeggiator, along with the powerful audio and midi bridges means it plays nicely with other apps and sequencers. Model 15 is my #1 synth choice.

    As you correctly call MIDI into: how they differ for virtual/control MIDI capabilities? I know that Animoog is able to send real midi notes (that is, you can record midi into Gadget, GB, Modstep). Is Model 15 too able to do it?

  • @zarv said:

    @amarok said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    Model 15 for me every time. I like Animoog, but the Model 15 is easier to tweak (for me anyway) and has that proper massive Moog sound. Essential I reckons.

    +1. Very true, I love both of these essential synths, but if I have to choose only one, it would be the Model 15 - there is no doubt for me that he sonic possibilities are endless; almost every time I open this app I find new directions and end up saving new patches. Plus the addition of the arpeggiator, along with the powerful audio and midi bridges means it plays nicely with other apps and sequencers. Model 15 is my #1 synth choice.

    As you correctly call MIDI into: how they differ for virtual/control MIDI capabilities? I know that Animoog is able to send real midi notes (that is, you can record midi into Gadget, GB, Modstep). Is Model 15 too able to do it?

    I haven't sent MIDI via the Model 15, but it receives really well, and it's a regular in my Fugue line-up. Never had a problem with MIDI connectivity, or any weird Audiobus/IAA behavior.

    The Moog 15 absolutely reeks of quality and attention to detail, probably one of the best crafted apps on my old pad.

  • I say Animoog. I love both, I think Model 15 is awesome and a must have quality vintage analog synth emulation but Animoog is a unique masterpiece of a synth app, it feels more immediate more fun. In my humble opinion Animoog is the most must have iOS synth.

  • Model 15 is the best sounding synth I've ever used. However I've never owned a real hardware synth, but it certainly beats all of the other soft synths on iOS comfortably IMO.

  • yeah animoog, very special sound and a classic...

  • @richardyot said:
    Model 15 is the best sounding synth I've ever used. However I've never owned a real hardware synth, but it certainly beats all of the other soft synths on iOS comfortably IMO.

    I've never owned a Moog, but was slightly embarrassed by the sounds coming from my iPad when I took it to a band practice last year where the keyboard player had a new MiniMoog Voyager. The iMS20 is a pretty good copy of the real thing, but I had nothing in my synth folder that could compare with a hardware Moog. Then came along the Model 15....I reckon I could give his Voyager a run for its money now.

  • I know Blamsofts Viking is not a proper 'Moog' but it's got a very fat sound and is loosely based on the Voyager.
    Never played a 'real' Mini Moog. iMini is the closet encounter I've had :D

  • Great feedbacks to my question, thank you.
    Without delving in any statistics, it looks like opinions are divided (no surprise), maybe with some bend towards M15. This is the more recent one, so one has the right to expect it to outperform the older one, am I correct?

    My fear is that I own Reason (not only), love its tracks' management, but all those cables in the rear drive me crazy. Would be the same with M15?

  • edited July 2016

    (comment edited to oblivion.)

  • @zarv said:
    Great feedbacks to my question, thank you.
    Without delving in any statistics, it looks like opinions are divided (no surprise), maybe with some bend towards M15. This is the more recent one, so one has the right to expect it to outperform the older one, am I correct?

    My fear is that I own Reason (not only), love its tracks' management, but all those cables in the rear drive me crazy. Would be the same with M15?

    Can't remember the details, but I think they're using newer technology on the Moog 15 that gives a richer sound. The patching takes a bit of practice to learn, but there's a good batch of presets to get you going, and you can make the leads transparent if they get in the way.

  • edited July 2016

    @MonzoPro said:

    @zarv said:
    Great feedbacks to my question, thank you.
    Without delving in any statistics, it looks like opinions are divided (no surprise), maybe with some bend towards M15. This is the more recent one, so one has the right to expect it to outperform the older one, am I correct?

    My fear is that I own Reason (not only), love its tracks' management, but all those cables in the rear drive me crazy. Would be the same with M15?

    Can't remember the details, but I think they're using newer technology on the Moog 15 that gives a richer sound. The patching takes a bit of practice to learn, but there's a good batch of presets to get you going, and you can make the leads transparent if they get in the way.

    M15 is for 64 bit only devices which probably allows them to push it more. it definitely sucks more cpu than animoog. I can just manage to record it in cubasis on my Air1 but not on my mini2. i find animoog easier/funner to patch so far (I love the x y thing). Plus i love a lot of the IAP in animoog. really I would just love a new animoog that is 64 bit only (i.e beefier) and sounds smoother, if that could even be a thing.

  • Well, I spent some time (re)reading the thread on M15 at its day 1. Great reading, btw, even if I had to stop around p10. I'm telling for this took me towards M15 (at least as the first one to get), and an element for this decision, apparently of secondary importance, is the similarity, that someone noticed, between the architecture of M15 and Bazille (a synth I love inordinately). This, and a bunch of very advanced technical solutions, like the dual instrument/effect insertion, that I found (theoretically) feasible only with Magellan and Nave, and I was able to put to work only with Nave.
    Ah, last but not least, the sound, as I can judge from YT videos, is amazing, really

  • @Samu said:

    Never played a 'real' Mini Moog. iMini is the closet encounter I've had

    With the Model D MiniMoog back in production, I'm happily saving my pennies for the day I can place my order. Never owned one yet myself, but a good friend had one in the late '70s, so I did get to spend many hours with it when he would occasionally lend it to me.
    But that iMini can't hold a patch to it, & is sadly lacking in SO many areas, starting with the sound itself.
    Next on my wish-list from Moog would be a true iMiniMoog app.
    Even so, I'll continue to fill my penny jar...

  • edited July 2016

    Any Moog is a great Moog. So is Model 15 (see what I did there?)

    What I like about Animoog is that it's not really an emulation of anything, it's an iOS synth monster utterly unto itself. There are 7 or so huge banks of sounds that are derived from vintage Moog sounds (which sound so good), but they, like the rest of the timbres contained or importable into the synth, become points of sonic departure into completely non-trad sounds.

    Model 15 on the other hand, is a must-have for a whole different set of reasons. I was a teenager in the 70s and Ive wanted a Moog (and an Arp) ever since...shit that's a long time...I grew up on those sounds to the extent that I grew up at all.

    Hearing Model 15 felt like home, getting hands "on" it felt like heaven (Under glass, of course. Virtual. Which is still heaven, and as close as I've been, clothed).

    Short answer, per the usual from me, treat yourself, get both.

    In terms of soft synth emulations of hardware, there's some great sounding synths. What they have to do with the originals, well now, that's another question. What I will say is that I'm actually honored to buy Moog emulations made by Moog people.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Any Moog is a great Moog. So is Model 15 (see what I did there?)

    ...

    Lol, I see, clever trick, I love them :D
    I'm oriented to buy both, but on different times, I think I'll get M15 first, then, maybe next month or sort of, Animoog.

    I'm a bit older, my teens were before the Beatles came (from my pov, went) to US the first time.
    Moog sound is a second love for me, more mediated by people like JM Jarre, then well after the rock-pop-punk-reggae wave had quieted

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Any Moog is a great Moog. So is Model 15 (see what I did there?)

  • @zarv said:
    Now that the dust has settled, let me ask: if you could afford just one moog synth, you go for Animoog or Model15? I know, I know, this has been already asked for, but now should there be many around well into the use of both

    Animoog

    I am partial though.

    If you get Animoog I can give you links to download two of my preset and timbre banks that are on another site for free.

    I am not going to tell you that they are different - yada yada - money is not unlimited I get it.

    Just because Animoog is special in that it is unique and created for IOS platform, taking advantage of IOS and Apple products.

    Model 15 is an emulation. Perhaps you should try another modular synth app to see if connecting wires is up your alley at all. Granted, MODEL 15 is the best Modular synth, I can at least give you an idea.

    That being said, they are really different animals................. LOL

    That

  • Lol @Rustik thank you. As you may see from my comment above, I'm not very fond of simulated wires (I do not despise the real ones, instead); think of Reason :|
    Actually I already tried my hand at another modular, did not like it, but it was a free limited version, so my impression may be flawed

  • Both are "must have", but if I had to choose just one, it would be Animoog (at least today...)

  • edited July 2016

    (The other big reason to get Animoog is those @RustiK banks, but only if you want your face melted, paint peeled, doors blown in, neural net rewired...and there's some sweet lullabies in there for you, for afterwards)

  • The cool thing about Animoog is that there's a lot of timbres in the IAP from some old Moog synths. It gives you the best of both worlds, especially when combining the analog timbres with other timbres that are entirely different.

  • The Model 15 is the best sounding software synth I've ever heard, period (yes, including desktop OSes).

    But given its iPad-centric nature, I'd tell someone with neither to purchase Animoog first. As well as a few of the preset packs that come with new timbres. They can get pricey all told, but I feel like having the extra timbres completes the synth.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    (The other big reason to get Animoog is those @RustiK banks, but only if you want your face melted, paint peeled, doors blown in, neural net rewired...and there's some sweet lullabies in there for you, for afterwards)

    Looks like one of the first Jim Carrey movies. You make me curious

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