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Pad controllers for iOS?
As the title says, does anyone use that specific combo?
I might be looking to get away from the laptop for a while, but push is so cool for doing melodies and chords, what's the alternative to doing that with iOS? Looking to get melodies from synths and maybe modstep (seems more stable these days, maybe?) and beats from ruisemaker, patterning and /or iSpark into AUM and synced with octatrack to finally record into cubasis, possibly using a io dock 2. Tall order? Or easy peasy?
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Hmm...I doubt there's anything close to Push at the moment...
With a launchpad (I guess it works also with the pro version) you'll get the Launchpad app, which is a sample player with some effects live, but no more.
You might wanna look at apps like Soundprism or that kind of hybrid apps to get new perspectives...
The only other controller I can think about to have fun with, but needs a bit of work and proper apps/synths, should be the Quneo.
Yeah, not really looking to use launchpad app, just the pro in scales mode to play notes or drums with it. Is that possible?
Hmm...I don't know...But if it's a native mode, I suppose it might do that...
Do you have a usb hub (for powering the Launchpad pro ?) and a CCK to test this out ?
I'm interested
Well not yet, not sure I want to spend the money in the blind, might ask to test it out in store tho
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The Launchpad Pro works with iOS, with reservations. Yes, the Note Mode and Drum Mode work with iOS, sending MIDI messages into any appropriate app.
The iPad (I have Air and Mini2) will not power the Launchpad Pro, but if you connect the LP Pro to power, connect it to the iPad (CCK), then unplug the LP Pro power it will still stay connected and powered by the iPad, but it will drain the battery quicker, naturally.
I also have a Launchpad Mini (with the orange/green keys) and it can be powered by the iPad at its low brightness setting. I don't know about the new standard RGB Launchpad.
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I think while you speak about "reservation" I suppose it's very limited as there's very few things available connected to an iPad...
As there's no midi mapping software, it will be fun for some stuffs but very limited...
That's why I think a Quneo might be more interesting...
Welcome and thanks for your reply
What have been the biggest issues or reservations,you have encountered so far using the launchpad pro? Other than power, which isn't too big a concern of mine TBH. What apps have you been able to use it with and what apps have been causing issues?
@crony can you program quneo from the iPad? And what apps have you been able to use it with? Thanks.
A Launchpad is great with the Launchpad app (natch), but otherwise you're pretty much limited to its MIDI functionality and grid configuration.
I'm looking into this myself ...
Patterning doesnt (yet ?) allow recording of note ins , so iSpark is a better choice for this .
Modstep dev said in one of the threads here they would look to implement Launchpad compatability ( including feedback) , but it seems there are still outstanding bugs affecting general use so hopefully they are fixing those first .
The best specific implementation that I am aware of , other than Novation 's own app, is B-Step 2 by Monoplugs , a four lane harmonic / melodic midi sequencer which has Launchpad compatability built in for 1 or 2 units .
Cross platform IOS ,Android , PC , Mac
I am still researching the demo & manual , so cant share experience , other than to say it will require some learning.
I would also welcome any users experience .
That looks pretty neat, so it isn't an instrument tho right? It could be used for example with iSEM? And the synched to iSpark?
Also that wouldn't work since I am using an Alesis io dock 2 would it?
@jbvdb the Quneo editor is only on Pc or Mac...But once edited it will work fine with your iPad. I don't own a Quneo myself, I'm investigating at the moment
@Wally thanks for the info ! I'm gonna test B-step 2 !!! It exist till 2014, can't believe I've never seen this before !
Ok one more
How about beatstep pro, is anyone using that? Seems like it can be set up to run with iSpark but via USB, would it work as well via midi, I am not willing to get rid of the io dock! Thanks
I had the beatstep pro, then sold it...But with the firmware upgrade recently, it became a very good choice...If you want a step sequencer of course.
Not sure you can combine BStep + ISpark , as iSpark seems opens only to himself as far as I've read...
Good point with the Bstep, as you can set some drum patterns and bass lines...I don't think you can manage chords. Not sure how many patterns you may store as well of each types.
Maybe B-step2+Launchpad for chords and ergonomy, and beatstep (for apps like Elastic drums) should complete a neat solution live ?
And iSpark to complete with an other beatmachine...
I like Akai MPD's. Loads of sliders and dials, nice and customisable and with an easy modification very responsive touch.
Can you use them chromatically? To play notes? How about using scales?
I have the LP Pro - As someone mentioned, you can connect it to the ipad with the CCK - then hit the Setup Button top Left - There's Note/Drum/Fader/User Modes.
Note Mode (User):
Notes go Left to right in half steps
They go from the bottom to top in perfect fourth intervals.
Lit up pads denote the white notes on a piano (C Major Scale)
Darker pads are non-diatonic (Chromatic)
Lower Left default is C1
Press UP/Down Buttons at same time to return to default position
Up/Down Buttons (Octaves) or Left/Right buttons (Semitones)
Sends/Receives Midi - Can do the same with Hardware
You Can Choose a Midi Channel for Each of the User Modes (1-16) - However, if you are also using with a DAW some of the Channels are reserved for that use - double mapping can happen.
The 8 Buttons Used for Scene Launching are unused and mappable in User Mode
Drums Mode is good if you're looking for Four 4x4 drum pads
Fader Mode you can use to emulate knob movements - basically 8 faders with values from 0-127 moving bottom to top.
You can Also change settings for Velocity/Aftertouch/Aftertouch Threshhold
(Lastly, if you happen to be using the LP Pro with a DAW there are add-ons to get bunches of scales and other customizations (sequencers and the like).
Personally, I prefer the LaunchControl XL with iOS - it's bottom 16 buttons can send note values - not ideal size for performance, but does what I need in conjunction with all the other control it gives.
It's a bit of a bummer they don't have a scale mode more like push. I am trying to just run an octatrack and iPad with my idock and... some kind of controller and a bass station.
. It's probably the closest thing in terms of form and function tho to what I am looking for.
Kinda thinking circuit at this point. I wish it had more synth and less drum voices tho. Last thing I need is more drums, I must be the only one
You can set the pads to whatever note numbers you choose. I came up with my own system!
can you see the midi notes to whatever you want on the circuit?
Cool man, are you able to set that up on the iPad or do you need to do the work beforehand in the computer?
I am pretty sure you can set the scales like on the new electribes.
Actually you can, select the note you want on the keyboard, then it's a little obtuse but there are the pads to select the mode. No way to tell on the machine but it's in the manual if I understand correctly.
I've been begging for ableton to put this feature in push as it's so unnecessarily convoluted right now.. I don't want to deal with scales etc... just allow one to select a pad and turn a dial to set the midi note you want.... Korg and Akai have been able to do this for years on all of their controllers, most other controller devs too, but ableton and novation, arguably the the ones who's customers probably need it the most are slow on the uptake
You can probably do it on a computer but I used the hardware menu on the MPD itself
https://us.novationmusic.com/launch/launchpad-pro/support-downloads
firmware update out today adds Scales Mode.
I love the Circuit as a seqeuncer / controller, and hey it has synths and samples too! Damn good deal! Darn damn good!
It doesnt sample tho. Not that I care that much, I have an octatrack for that, but it is a big difference in my mind. And yeah, I am really considering it tbh.
Great news, I will have to revisit that idea then, thanks!
Yah sample playback only. it is a perk, nowhere near as robust as Octatrack looks. Man I would love an octatrack mini that used batteries.
@AudioGus you might be interested by this
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/bar/elektron/Machinedrum-SPS1-MKII/pedago/astuces/composer-partout-une-elektron-sur-batterie-6608/
If you're looking for a free plug solution...
That does look cool.
Tbh tho iPad plus e2s looks like it could be a killer combo!