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Some questions about Cubasis
Hi all,
I have a couple of questions:
1) is there a way to move the tracks up or down? Sometimes I want to reorganize a project but so far I didn't find a way.
2) When I record a track I have to repeat the playing until I get the right tone. So far I see cubasis keeps the recorded track and records the new one on top but making an overdubbing, meaning you hear all the time the previously recorded tracks making the recording a mess. Is there a way like in Gararage Band desktop version that you can record in loop in Cubasis keeping them but not hearing them when playing?
Not sure if explained well my 2) question but I'm sure the smart people around will understand me!
Thanks!
Comments
I bought Cubasis recently and am learning it.
If you hold down on a track header for a bit, it gets a ghosty look and you can move it up or down.
As far as I can tell, loop recording, or overdub recording always creates multiple overlapping regions which you can glue together into one afterwards (like for MIDI overdubs of drum parts or controller events.) Previous takes are not muted, and I see no way of doing multi-take recording. Just stop, delete/undo, and re-record for each take.
There's no DAW on an iPad I know of (and Steinberg doesn't bill Cubasis as a DAW) that can match working on a desktop. Cubasis so far seems pretty nice for what it does, but pretty limited if you're comparing to a DAW.
Hi,
Thanks , 1) advise worked.
Regarding 2) let's hope in future updates they include this feature. I would consider it quite fundamental for a DAW, even if it's in IOS.
There’s a Cubasis 2.0 coming out some time in the future. It may have some of the many features that, apparently, people have been requesting for years. Off hand, I’d say numerous audio and MIDI editing features, subgroups and busing, global tempo and time signature tracks, arrangement markers, video scoring, duplicating tracks and effects, effects presets, a more full-featured and less clunky piano roll, real time and more extensive quantize options, higher MIDI resolution, better metering, user folders/subfolders, along with multiple-take and replace mode recording.
Auria Pro also lacks loop recording. I find working with the iPad, you need to adjust your thinking about what’s fundamental, and what qualifies as a DAW. Cubasis is not a DAW… at least at the moment. It’s a “Music Production System,” and I'm thinking it does a lot of useful stuff on an iPad. Auria Pro is a DAW, but it is also not as full-featured as a desktop DAW. Makes sense at the price, coded by one guy, and also that a touch tablet is a different beast. It takes a long time for iOS developers to add features (along with fixing problems---some caused by Apple) and they, for the most part, don’t get paid for their work through updates.
Thanks! Looking forward to this coming Cubasis update!
You can do multitakes with AUM by looping one channel and playing/recording on another.
Could probably have a similar setup with other apps too, it's just AUM is easy on the iPad's resources, especially if you're looping an audio file from Audioshare.
Phew! If they implement even a fraction of that feature list then I hope they find a way for us to reward them @LFS ?
I’m not expecting too many of those improvements all at once, but if they turn Cubasis into a full DAW, I think they’d have every right to sell it as a new app like WML did with Auria. That doesn’t appear to be Steinberg’s plan. 2.0 could be a very nice free update.
Nice synthesis of the pending Cubasis users requests... But you forgot which could be the main one : timestretching/pitchshifting capabilities ;-)
Peace.
Hi,
Could you be a little more detailed on how to do this? I did not get exactly how to do it. In this setup with AUM where are the multiple takes being recorded? So far I understand this would be a linear multitake recording ( i keep on recording one take after the other the different attemps to make the right take), isn't it?
THANKS!
One method would be to have a track where a file player is loaded with a looped backing track or you set up loop markers in your DAW and have the output from the DAW as an input source on a track in AUM. On another track you play along to the backing track and record your takes. When you're finished recording, you load up the recorded track in the file player and play the recorded track at the same time. You could either have all of the recorded takes saved to a single file or record your takes into separate files. You can have a blank space at the end of the looping backing track so that you can easily separate the different takes when you've decided which take you like. The advantage of the single recorded track is being able to loop all of the takes in sync in one go versus having to load a different take into the file player each time. The advantage of single take recording is that you don't have to edit out the take you like and can simply paste the take you like into the appropriate location in your DAW project.
That was my primary thought with regard to audio editing features. Tightening up (quantizing) an audio performance, sliding transient markers to correct or change rhythm, matching tempo for audio loops, pitch adjustments… all stuff we’ve gotten spoiled with and expect to do in modern DAWs.
I get it man. but, even if I love cubasis for what it can already do on an ipad, i think that we will not have all that you put under audio editing in the next updt unfortunatly. I'll already be super happy if we can get a simple function to timestretch and pitch edit samples ;-)
Probably the best way is to use AUM and Audioshare in tandem (same developer, AUM can easily access Audioshare). Copy your backing track to Audioshare, open it in a channel in AUM and set it to loop. Create another channel to record into, and that's pretty much it.
You can record multiple takes in a row without stopping, which will result in one long file, or you can stop and start between takes. Either way you can then go to Audioshare and easily edit your files, using all the editing features of that app (snap to beat, etc.).
May not be as easy as a desktop setup, but you can at least have the backing track looped so that you can focus on getting the recording right.