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Modstep and Patterning Help?
I am apparently the rare soul who actually likes loading IAAs in Modstep. (Why? It's quicker to try out configurations? I use Modstep as a composing tool, so I don't know what apps I want until I write the midi, so how can I load them in AUM first?)
Anyway, I have a great track going. I'm using the internal drum machine, which has a decent 808 emulation, but ultimately, it's just a guide track. (It's Pete Best, if you know what I mean.)
I recently wrote the perfect drum part in Patterning, and thanks to link, they play beautifully together. I need help recording Modstep and Patterning together to work on later in Cubasis. I have four questions.
- There's no way to use Patterning as an IAA within Modstep, is there?
- Should I just record the Modstep stems and then record Patterning into Cubasis later?
- I know I could host these apps in AUM and sequence them from Modstep, but that seems like a lot of extra reverse engineering. If No. 2 is problematic, I guess this is the solution.
- I forget what No. 4 was.
Thanks!
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Sure there is. Just load it up. You can choose which output to select (Main, or individual pads):
If the it is really the perfect drum part then recording to stems is a good way to "commit" and move on. I'm always hesitant to do that, thinking I might want to tweak later ... Which is why I almost never get anything finished.
It should work fine. If hosting in ModStep is stable enough and quicker for you then go for it. That's why they have put so much effort into instrument hosting in ModStep. Just one word of advice for now: Set up an empty project, then remember to load the empty project before closing down ModStep. That way, the next time you come in you won't run the risk of the project crashing. It's possible to get into a difficult situation if ModStep auto-loads a project and crashes loading the IAAs. The option to not auto-load IAAs doesn't currently work. But I've heard that will be fixed in the next version.
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Thanks for your advice.
So I did as you suggested. Had patterning as "midi in" inside Modstep. The notes from my world-beating drum pattern were recorded from Patterning! (Does it matter that they recorded in melody mode rather than drum mode?) But how do I get those Patterning sounds to play inside of Modstep? I press the clip: no sound. I changed patterning to be midi out in modstep. feel like I'm so close!
These are the settings. I don't really know what happens under the hood in Patterning. After I sent this, I realized I had the midi out for patterning on channel 1 in Modstep; changed to omni. Same result.
Hi @ExAsperis99 ! Benjamin from modstep here. It really depend what your goal is:
Hope that helps!
Best,
Benjamin
Yeah, I thought you already had everything (kit included) like you wanted in Patterning, and we're just asking about outputting the audio from it in ModStep. If so then you just load it up and then touch the pattern to start Patterning.
But now it sounds more like you're trying to either play the ModStep sampler using patterning? Not clear on what you're trying to do.
He might be trying to trigger the patterns he made in patterning via modstep.....
Thanks for your quick responses.
Wim: "You just load [Patterning] up and then touch the pattern to start Patterning." That has no effect on Patterning, which seems to be just playing in the background. I'm clearly doing something wrong, but what?
So in this instance (for some reason I cannot use IAA Sync), Patterning is loaded with Link in an IAA slot. The drums will record as an audio stem even though there's no midi in the clip? I tried this, and the pattern was similar, but it was not the sounds of the kit playing in Patterning. That's a very strange result.
That would be neat, too, but I can't figure out how to make that happen. Even though Patterning seems to be hosted in Modstep, Patterning won't let me use Inter-App Audio Sync. ("To use Inter-App Audio Sync, you must connect the main output of Patterning to an Inter-App Audio host app." I thought I was?)
"Just playing in the background" is what I thought you were trying to do. If you're trying to send notes to trigger pads in Patterning from ModStep, that's not possible. It doesn't accept MIDI in for triggering notes.
I won't try go guess further what you're trying to do. Sorry, I don't get it from your descriptions so far.
Yeah, I didn't think that was possible either. I misunderstood your comment. I thought that I could somehow trigger the drums in Patterning while in Modstep.
So here's my solution:
Patterning and each Modstep channel in a separate channel in AUM.
Each channel is routed as an IAA Output to Cubasis.
Start drums in AUM.
Play clips in Modstep. Ends up as audio in Cubasis. Although the levels once the go through AUM are crazy, so I'll have to adjust for that....
Pics TK.
Seems like you coulda just loaded ModStep and everything else up in Cubasis, without AUM, but whatever works eh?
Oh, bananas. Really? Well now I know!
Well, on the other had, if you have a setup already, like you did, and then you decide that you want to bounce to audio, it's simpler just to do what you did than to rip up everything and re-host it. There's more than one way to skin a cat my friend.