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Then who will buy newer, more powerful iPads and iPhones?
Some even say that they intentionally slow down performance of older devices, and I'm starting to believe it
Powerful? I will eventually buy another iPad for more power (processor, ram, better screen, better speakers etc). I won't be buying a new iPad for one up the Jones OS features. But yes I understand that most companies eventually will sell their grannies to sell new boxes.
Thing is, will this actually make them any more money in a close to saturated market? Selling services and software product seems to be the area that profit is coming from. Making a long term bullet proof product that has longevity and security can still be an attractive product, if you can convince people that their investment is good. They can then buy your services and product if you make sure you are selling quality.
It's easy to say that the market won't change, but Apple already changed the market in the first place. The problem is more about changing the short term view of investors, not changing the buyers. I believe Buyers can be sold quality devices, even pay a bit more, if they can see that the product will continue to make their experiences rock solid, reliable and secure. Am I being nieve? Maybe, but the market for high end devices yearly is not sustainable.
'It just works' used to be Apples biggest differential from the competition. Yes it failed in some ways, but now the services and software market has changed, there are many new opportunities for those who can sell in new ways. If Apple try to take on the Android game by selling cheap features, they will just become another company fighting for the same market. They need to keep their product seen as a product to be desired.
OS features can make a product exciting and desirable, but you need more than those to keep the product viewed as 'The Best', 'The Dogs Danglies' etc. Apple have built their reputation on being at the 'Quality End', they need to keep that in mind when thinking what to include and what to cut, either in OS or hardware.
We don't need more power, we need more stability.
I'm running my iPads at barely 30% and there's still some crash and glitches.
Adding CPU+RAM won't change anything at the moment.
I've come across my Air2 struggling with the load, but for most uses its fine. I would however buy another for those reasons (high spec) but not those alone. I would not buy any new product for more OS features, unless those features did not affect the spec need.
Yes more stability first
I didn't mention, I'm using the pro 12", and of course I would love more power in the absolute, but even if I go easy on them, it's not stable enough...
At 30% of load, I expect no glitch at all, not a single one...
Regular glitches with certain apps or many apps?
Both, but even if I seem to evacuate the "bad" apps, there's some glitches coming out of nowhere sometimes, on a complete random way.
Add midi stuck notes sometimes (from Modstep ? from AUX synths ? Even just IAA synths...where to look ? )
Looks more and more to a problem with the OS itself...At least, partly...
Anyone else having a similar experience with their 12 incher?
I don't want to look as a spammer, but watch this video, read my comments, you'll have a better idea of what I'm talking about
OS developers at a place like Apple are more like translators. Other people come up with the changes and they translate them to code. If you don't like something in iOS, blame management or product designers or marketers, not the developers.
Amen!
lets see whats in the bag of 10.1
they haven't done a thing for iPads in whats around now
You know, I think the Audiobus team, in theory anyway, could offer something like this within apps currently connected to the bus. I'm pretty happy with the app switcher myself but yeah, think they could include (optional) support for some gesture that would show all connected apps in a grid or something. Do you have an idea for a gesture that would be 'safe' within music apps and faster that just using the sidebar?
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i am unhappy as is
why don't the apple apps use slideover/splitview/pip
its a year later now &_&
and their own apps don't support the possibilities,
I am going to the basement to laugh about this, arrrgh
Actually, all filth to one side, my one concern with the Big Boy was that it would be inconveniently large, but not at all. Makes the Air feel like a phablet without the phone. I am on the train as regards every last glitch or fart that I might come across, but in my quieter moments (which are more often than not) I would also tell you -putting birth control to one side- that it's the best piece of technology I've ever owned.
I am still on an iPad mini, I have zero interest in a pen
and I won't buy an iPad pro until apple steps up their software game ...
Its like they don't want to sell new iPads, they tread it like its the ugly stepchild
damned phone and watch and the stupid tv are much more important to them
it looks like they have very little development time left over for iPad
no need to be Einstein to figure this out
/rant
Dreaming is a beautiful thing indeed and I very much hope I'm proven wrong. As @lala points out they are too concerned with Apple TV, watch and similar. I'm not a fan boy in any shape or form but this feels very much like post Steve Jobs era. While I haven't watched any of his Apple events, the last two I've schemed through almost made me sick. They're full of oohs and aahs about the latest amazing this or that and how cool those things are. Well they're mostly things I'd mostly expect 12 year olds to be excited about.
The sole cpu race vs ram stagnation shows just how much they care about the semi pro market on the iPads. It very much reminds me of the pixel wars in photography.
Virgin media just installed 100mbps internet in my house. I'm still figuring out what to do with all this speed.
the last events were so full of consumer nonsense I couldnt stand to watch the complete shows ...
bling bling in iMessage, apple music, siri on tv ...
thats not the stuff that wins the heart & souls of nerds
sometimes I wish I had the old apple back
can you imagine steve sitting on the couch showing of bling bling in iMessage for 20 minutes?
I can't, but I can imagine him screaming at whoever did the iOS apple apps that don't support the new iPad interactions, arrrgh
no pip in videos and the podcast app, what a sad joke
don't get me started, lol
Asked and answered.
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Move to wha??? Ooo, that smacks of Windows heresy, I don't ever recall that being offered in any of my years of scrolling Mac menus. Be careful, you may have midnight visitors with torches and pitchforks.
When you/we mentioning Slideover/Splitview there's a thing that Apple must improve...
WHY do we have to scroll thru an endless list of big big icons to find appropriate app we will slideover?
This hasn't changed since iOS 9.x...
And, one more complain about the new upcoming iOS 10:
Why have Apple decided to change the UI of the menu that slides up from the bottom of the screen (have forgotten what you guys call it in english)?
This is the new look... Why two pages to scroll between instead of everything in one place?
Amarok, excuse me, but I don't get it...
What do you mean in this reply? My English is really bad, so please explain again what you mean?
Can't see that organize the folders and app icon has something with windows at all...
As long as Apple have this obsolete way to execute apps I want a nice and fast way to move around my grid-UI...
Just now there's an love & hate relationship with Apple...
Sorry, late night weak attempt at humor, I did not mean to distract from an otherwise excellent thread conversation. I agree with what you say, there is plenty of room for improvement.
I was only referring to the "Move to Folder" command was a feature in Windows systems, but I don't recall it being included in Apple OS, so the fact that it does not show up on the iOS does not surprise me. We can only hope... ~cheers
agree with all of this,
1.scrolling in slideover is a nightmare, its such an endless list of apps to scroll through one by one ...
2. argh, what !"§$"ing design joke is that, more stuff to scroll and swipe through. lock jony in a cave, please
3. the iPad pros have a pen but no OCR
4. one of the oldest methods of file interaction on a computer is missing, drag&drop, it happens to be the most intuitive one
5. search is a nightmare, siri finds nothing
6. the physical keyboard is !"§$ing expensive and not backlit, I can't type on this in the dark
7. there is no force/3d touch
(6&7 are hardware related)
How is this crap supposed to be a substitute for my mac, huh?
(They are advertising this now as a computer.)
apple: iPad pro - whats a computer
Did I mention this is in the same price range as a macbook air?
These are not our 500$ iPads anymore.
869€ (128gb)
169€ (keyboard)
109€ (pencil)
= 1147€ (in germany)
I am not surprised at all that they sell less & less iPads every year,
the hardware is great, but the software isn't up to do the the job.
I think I did enough preaching to the choir now.