Genome updated with Link !

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Hansson

Pros and cons compared to modstep. Not including built in instruments.. iam th9nking sequencing only... anyone thoughts?+

null____void

@Hansson said:
Pros and cons compared to modstep. Not including built in instruments.. iam th9nking sequencing only... anyone thoughts?+

The zooming/navigation drives me nuts on Genome, much prefer Modstep in that regard. But Genome has this cool pinch-to-beat-repeat-type function which is very cool

ToMess

@Hansson said:
Pros and cons compared to modstep. Not including built in instruments.. iam th9nking sequencing only... anyone thoughts?+

I havent looked at it in much depth, i did buy it and cant really explain why, but it just wasnt for me and gave it up after fiddling around with it for a moment. Modstep on the other hand i do like

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@rhcball said:

@Hansson said:
Pros and cons compared to modstep. Not including built in instruments.. iam th9nking sequencing only... anyone thoughts?+

The zooming/navigation drives me nuts on Genome, much prefer Modstep in that regard. But Genome has this cool pinch-to-beat-repeat-type function which is very cool

The remix feature on the main page. It's great!

So pleased this has Link!!!

Hansson

I also bought it before modstep was released, i wanted a clip launcher, but i find the interface fiddley, probably because i didnt got into it properly....

JohnnyGoodyear

@Hansson said:
I also bought it before modstep was released, i wanted a clip launcher, but i find the interface fiddley, probably because i didnt got into it properly....

This about sums up my position. Opened it this morning and then had a sinking oh that's right feeling and closed it again. I only even mention it as a (somewhat shameful) example of how many users are feelings first driven etc...

gburks

I'm rethinking my go-to midi looper. If only Gadget had midi out.

I gave Modstep a really good chance, but there are too many quirks that still bite me in a live performance scenario. Mostly the piano roll. Missed first notes. Awkward editing. Can't quantize select notes. Can't drag notes to quantized positions. Can only quantize the entire clip after moving things around.

I'm about to jump back into Infinite Looper which is showing more and more promise. Really excited to try the song mode out. Really excited that CC automation is coming soon. I hope it's piano roll is more friendly. I hope I can map a midi foot controller to run it as close to Loopy-for-midi as possible.

It's been a LONG time since I've worked with Genome but now that it has LINK I suppose I need to give it another look. I remember putting it away for similar reasons I listed for Modstep. The piano roll was really difficult to work with. I'll jump back in and see how it compares now.

Gadget piano roll is the gold standard.

AlexB

Cannot judge on modstep cause I dont have it but I find cool that you can in Genome midi learn the clips so you can basically trigger you sequencing from a pad.If you are working with differnet apps at the same time this is absolutely cool. Can Modstep also midilearn the clip launching?

lukesleepwalker

I'll be interested to see what Loopy ME offers for "loopy-for-midi".

AudioGus

@gburks said:
I'm rethinking my go-to midi looper. If only Gadget had midi out.

I dream of a Midi out Gadget. I have been thinking of doing a 'fan art' mock-up of what the UI might look like.

Processaurus

the update fixed a bug that was a pain for using it in a "live" way, there was an issue with the playhead getting stuck looping on the old length when you added to the length of a clip.

Processaurus

@Hansson said:
Pros and cons compared to modstep. Not including built in instruments.. iam th9nking sequencing only... anyone thoughts?+

Pros of Genome vS ModStep

• Stability
• Stability
• Undo functionality
• A real song mode
• Correctly slaves to midi clock and timeline position from a DAW
• Remix section
• Groove templates
• Time signatures other than 4/4 (in a normal way)
• Bigger part of the screen dedicated to piano roll
• Snap is a button in Piano Roll

Cons

• Automation is awkward to edit and see what is going on. Automation overdubs are a mess. Automation is great in modstep.
• Zoom is seasick. Then again, zoom is fiddly in modstep as well. I think it needs to be constrained either vertical or horizontal. As is you lose your measure or your note range when you zoom the other.
• Can't resize clip area, as modstep can.
• Setup is for midi channel per track, rather than midi destination. Midi patching is much easier in modstep.
• Modstep has a better CC template system.
• Modstep has a preview of the notes contained in each clip. Easy to get lost which clip is which in Genome.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@AlexB said:
Cannot judge on modstep cause I dont have it but I find cool that you can in Genome midi learn the clips so you can basically trigger you sequencing from a pad.If you are working with differnet apps at the same time this is absolutely cool. Can Modstep also midilearn the clip launching?

Yes, it can.

skiphunt

I don't have modstep, but I got on board with Genome back when it was on sale. I'm not a musician per se, but I like to string together my sounds/synths in a sequence that's easily editable. Genome has been nearly perfect for what I wanted, and now even more so with link. Glad it's still getting developed.

Two things I can't quite figure out though. Under General settings you can set the editor to view snap, play note, fixed zoom, and time in tracks. I know what Play Note and Fixed Zoom do... and I thought I knew what View Snap and Time in Ticks did, but I can't tell a difference with either of those choices on or off. I can see the snapped cells regardless of whether that's on or off. And, I don't get a "Time in Ticks" whether that's selected or not.

Also, if I've turned off "snap" in the editor, and select some cells, it obviously allows me to set those precisely without snapping to the grid. And, those cells show as greyed blue instead of bright for the snapped ones. Then, when I turn snap back on, any new cells are grey/blue instead of bright blue regardless of if they're snapped or not.

Can't tell if these issues are bugs, or if I'm just not understanding them correctly. Can someone explain?

bsantoro

Does anyone know if Gadget has a preroll count-in with the metronome (one or two bars)? I cannot seem to find it.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@bsantoro said:
Does anyone know if Gadget has a preroll count-in with the metronome (one or two bars)? I cannot seem to find it.

If you go into the iOS settings (rather than the apps own settings) for Gadget you get the option of metronome count in (off, 1bar or 2bars).

bsantoro

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@bsantoro said:
Does anyone know if Gadget has a preroll count-in with the metronome (one or two bars)? I cannot seem to find it.

If you go into the iOS settings (rather than the apps own settings) for Gadget you get the option of metronome count in (off, 1bar or 2bars).

Oops! I meant Genome, not Gadget. Does Genome have a preroll count-in? Thanks for the info Matt.

skiphunt

@bsantoro said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@bsantoro said:
Does anyone know if Gadget has a preroll count-in with the metronome (one or two bars)? I cannot seem to find it.

If you go into the iOS settings (rather than the apps own settings) for Gadget you get the option of metronome count in (off, 1bar or 2bars).

Oops! I meant Genome, not Gadget. Does Genome have a preroll count-in? Thanks for the info Matt.

That sounds like one of the items questioned in my post, i.e. "Time in Ticks"? But I haven't been able to get it to work as per my posting. Could easily be user error though.

AlexB

@bsantoro said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@bsantoro said:
Does anyone know if Gadget has a preroll count-in with the metronome (one or two bars)? I cannot seem to find it.

If you go into the iOS settings (rather than the apps own settings) for Gadget you get the option of metronome count in (off, 1bar or 2bars).

Oops! I meant Genome, not Gadget. Does Genome have a preroll count-in? Thanks for the info Matt.

I was checking the manual but I couldn't find any preroll count-in but If you just put thte metronome on and you let just one pattern to roll , then you start to record from next cycle. Not perfect but still workable.

All the best

crony

Well...Nice update indeed...
But am I doing something wrong as I'm hearing a sequencer that does not groove at all ?
I mean, make a simple pattern drum/kick/hh , it's not regular at all...
It was the case before, and still is...
The editing is quite simple and user friendly, the midi learn is great, but it's unusable to me...
No doubts I'm staying with with Modstep, Cubasis, Gadget...And some step sequencers and arpegios...

Processaurus

@skiphunt said:

Two things I can't quite figure out though. Under General settings you can set the editor to view snap, play note, fixed zoom, and time in tracks. I know what Play Note and Fixed Zoom do... and I thought I knew what View Snap and Time in Ticks did, but I can't tell a difference with either of those choices on or off. I can see the snapped cells regardless of whether that's on or off. And, I don't get a "Time in Ticks" whether that's selected or not.

View snap snaps the view to octaves and measures. I'd rather it just snapped to measures, but maybe it works for some people?

Also, if I've turned off "snap" in the editor, and select some cells, it obviously allows me to set those precisely without snapping to the grid. And, those cells show as greyed blue instead of bright for the snapped ones. Then, when I turn snap back on, any new cells are grey/blue instead of bright blue regardless of if they're snapped or not.

Greyed notes are notes with a lower velocity. You can dial a velocity with the little bar on the side of the piano roll editor, to choose a velocity for new notes. Up all the way, they're blue, down low, grey, and everything in between.

skiphunt

@Processaurus said:

@skiphunt said:

Two things I can't quite figure out though. Under General settings you can set the editor to view snap, play note, fixed zoom, and time in tracks. I know what Play Note and Fixed Zoom do... and I thought I knew what View Snap and Time in Ticks did, but I can't tell a difference with either of those choices on or off. I can see the snapped cells regardless of whether that's on or off. And, I don't get a "Time in Ticks" whether that's selected or not.

View snap snaps the view to octaves and measures. I'd rather it just snapped to measures, but maybe it works for some people?

Also, if I've turned off "snap" in the editor, and select some cells, it obviously allows me to set those precisely without snapping to the grid. And, those cells show as greyed blue instead of bright for the snapped ones. Then, when I turn snap back on, any new cells are grey/blue instead of bright blue regardless of if they're snapped or not.

Greyed notes are notes with a lower velocity. You can dial a velocity with the little bar on the side of the piano roll editor, to choose a velocity for new notes. Up all the way, they're blue, down low, grey, and everything in between.

Thanks! Do you know what "Time in Ticks" is supposed to do? I figured it counted in before before recording, but can't tell any difference whether it's on or off.