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Ruismaker in Aum or however

Hi. How do y'all use Ruismaker? I know I could make clips in modstep but I'm still learning that program. Any other ideas? Can you sequence it in Aum somehow?

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  • Nope, I host it in AUM and sequence from patterning.
    Or in cubasis

  • How exactly does that look in cubasis? Is it easily assigned to pads? Feels silly playing drums on piano keys...

  • I assign c# etc but the all seem to have a tom layered underneath.

  • @raindro said:
    Hi. How do y'all use Ruismaker? I know I could make clips in modstep but I'm still learning that program. Any other ideas? Can you sequence it in Aum somehow?

    I wrote this a while back but everything remains the same

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/14253/patterning-dueling-ruismakers-a-drum-playground-how-to/p1

  • Is it me or is the kick a bit underwhelming?

  • It's just you. B)

  • @brice said:

    @raindro said:
    Hi. How do y'all use Ruismaker? I know I could make clips in modstep but I'm still learning that program. Any other ideas? Can you sequence it in Aum somehow?

    I wrote this a while back but everything remains the same

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/14253/patterning-dueling-ruismakers-a-drum-playground-how-to/p1

    Ah yes. Well that was life-altering. Thanks for that!

  • @wim said:
    It's just you. B)

    Maybe its my ipad4 but I get a clip type sound in just about all the ways to setup the kick.

  • Ruismakers and Cubasis works fine for me.

  • @nic_b_nice said:

    @wim said:
    It's just you. B)

    Maybe its my ipad4 but I get a clip type sound in just about all the ways to setup the kick.

    iPad 4 should be fine for running multiple instances, so that isn't likely the issue.
    Some things to check:

    • is the overdrive enabled on the kick's channel, or the bitcrush?
    • is the dynamics knob (punchy/phat) set to one of its extreme values? try setting it to 0 instead
    • is something in your host overdriving the signal? mixer too high, some effect or limiter enabled?

    Are all sounds clipping, or is it just the kick?

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    I assign c# etc but the all seem to have a tom layered underneath.

    In the PAD editor in Cubasis, change it to "single". Otherwise Cubasis is trying to play a chord, (min7 etc) which will have the effect of also triggering the tom sound

  • edited August 2016

    @brambos said:

    @nic_b_nice said:

    @wim said:
    It's just you. B)

    Maybe its my ipad4 but I get a clip type sound in just about all the ways to setup the kick.

    iPad 4 should be fine for running multiple instances, so that isn't likely the issue.
    Some things to check:

    • is the overdrive enabled on the kick's channel, or the bitcrush?
    • is the dynamics knob (punchy/phat) set to one of its extreme values? try setting it to 0 instead
    • is something in your host overdriving the signal? mixer too high, some effect or limiter enabled?

    Are all sounds clipping, or is it just the kick?

    Sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner.

    It's not all kicks. Some presets seem to have the click in the kick and some don't.

    Here are two examples from the 80s kit and FM kit. Made sure the settings u mentioned were valid. I listened thru my Rokit8s and AKG240s.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/inolxtr5xqchgf3/Ruismaker - 80s Kit.wav?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukbq24enett5yxr/Ruismaker - FM Kit.wav?dl=0

    Sorry I tired to upload to soundcloud from Audioshare but the tracks never loaded even though it said it worked...sound cloud is garbage!

    Maybe it's just my ears but I hear a click. Thanks for being responsive and hope you dont take this as me dogging your product.

  • I use it with Cubasis, works great

  • You heard right, there is a click. It's the 'clicky' attack transient at the start of the kick at its maximum volume.

    Many old drum machines (like the 808 and some Korg drum machines of the 80s) used a short pulsewave to simulate the kick pedal hitting the bassdrum and Ruismaker has the same behavior. If you don't like the click you can turn it down (or make it go away) using the Personality knob. For most kick sounds this knob controls the attack/transient character.

  • well my bad...ill double check on the iPad to see if the personality negates the click. Thought I tried that but will make sure and report back. Again thanks for being responsive

  • I used it in Modstep, taking also advantage of the presets, but recently I've no more been able to do that. No sound, no preset. I've not yet dug the prob to the bottom, surely some mistake of mine (but why this does not happen in Cubasis, e.g.?)

  • @zarv said:
    I used it in Modstep, taking also advantage of the presets, but recently I've no more been able to do that. No sound, no preset. I've not yet dug the prob to the bottom, surely some mistake of mine (but why this does not happen in Cubasis, e.g.?)

    Can you please explain what happens so I can try to reproduce the issue? Just this morning I was running it in AUM and selecting presets like a boss.. So perhaps we can figure out where it goes wrong?

  • @brambos said:

    @zarv said:
    I used it in Modstep, taking also advantage of the presets, but recently I've no more been able to do that. No sound, no preset. I've not yet dug the prob to the bottom, surely some mistake of mine (but why this does not happen in Cubasis, e.g.?)

    Can you please explain what happens so I can try to reproduce the issue? Just this morning I was running it in AUM and selecting presets like a boss.. So perhaps we can figure out where it goes wrong?

    Thank you indeed. I've no prob in AUM.
    I simply put an instance of Ruismaker in a Modstep track, with a MIDI sequence (#'s and all, as usual), and obtained no sound, and the preset icon showed nothing. This happened in more than a project, and also after restarting. When I changed the track to sampler internal all went as expected

  • @zarv said:
    Thank you indeed. I've no prob in AUM.
    I simply put an instance of Ruismaker in a Modstep track, with a MIDI sequence (#'s and all, as usual), and obtained no sound, and the preset icon showed nothing. This happened in more than a project, and also after restarting. When I changed the track to sampler internal all went as expected

    Ah.. I can sort of reproduce this. I do get sound, but Modstep says Ruismaker doesn't have presets. I can make the presets magically appear by switching between piano key-view and drum-view. Suddenly they're back on the menu.

    It's probably a Modstep related thing, but I know the Modstep guys are working very hard on several AU-related improvements. So chances are good this will be fixed in their next update.

  • edited August 2016

    @brambos said:

    @zarv said:
    Thank you indeed. I've no prob in AUM.
    I simply put an instance of Ruismaker in a Modstep track, with a MIDI sequence (#'s and all, as usual), and obtained no sound, and the preset icon showed nothing. This happened in more than a project, and also after restarting. When I changed the track to sampler internal all went as expected

    Ah.. I can sort of reproduce this. I do get sound, but Modstep says Ruismaker doesn't have presets. I can make the presets magically appear by switching between piano key-view and drum-view. Suddenly they're back on the menu.

    It's probably a Modstep related thing, but I know the Modstep guys are working very hard on several AU-related improvements. So chances are good this will be fixed in their next update.

    Out of curiosity are you on the betas ? Cause the last several updates have pretty much been AU related.... Can't reproduce the missing presets in the existing beta so I'm guessing it's been fixed.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Out of curiosity are you on the betas ? Cause the last several updates have pretty much been AU related.... Can't reproduce the missing presets in the existing beta so I'm guessing it's been fixed.

    No, I'm not on the Modstep beta (I don't think I'm Modstep-savvy enough to be of much use), but the Modstep guys are on the Ruismaker betas and we keep our communication lines short.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @brambos said:

    @zarv said:
    Thank you indeed. I've no prob in AUM.
    I simply put an instance of Ruismaker in a Modstep track, with a MIDI sequence (#'s and all, as usual), and obtained no sound, and the preset icon showed nothing. This happened in more than a project, and also after restarting. When I changed the track to sampler internal all went as expected

    Ah.. I can sort of reproduce this. I do get sound, but Modstep says Ruismaker doesn't have presets. I can make the presets magically appear by switching between piano key-view and drum-view. Suddenly they're back on the menu.

    It's probably a Modstep related thing, but I know the Modstep guys are working very hard on several AU-related improvements. So chances are good this will be fixed in their next update.

    Out of curiosity are you on the betas ? Cause the last several updates have pretty much been AU related.... Can't reproduce the missing presets in the existing beta so I'm guessing it's been fixed.

    This is fixed in the latest beta :)

  • edited August 2016

    @brambos said:

    Ah.. I can sort of reproduce this. I do get sound, but Modstep says Ruismaker doesn't have presets. I can make the presets magically appear by switching between piano key-view and drum-view. Suddenly they're back on the menu.

    It's probably a Modstep related thing, but I know the Modstep guys are working very hard on several AU-related improvements. So chances are good this will be fixed in their next update.

    Correct, it worked. Sounds still not coming out, tho. I hear sounds when I hit the Ruismaker's pads but it does not read my piano-roll.
    Again, all works like a charm in Cubasis and AUM.

    Only, please tell me: I write my MIDI notes in the octave C3, that works when I use Xinthesizr to drive Ruismaker, but I've noted that Xinthesizr cares very nothing of the #s. How's that?
    To be complete: I've tried a lot of octaves in Modstep, w/o success

  • @zarv said:

    @brambos said:

    Ah.. I can sort of reproduce this. I do get sound, but Modstep says Ruismaker doesn't have presets. I can make the presets magically appear by switching between piano key-view and drum-view. Suddenly they're back on the menu.

    It's probably a Modstep related thing, but I know the Modstep guys are working very hard on several AU-related improvements. So chances are good this will be fixed in their next update.

    Correct, it worked. Sounds still not coming out, tho. I hear sounds when I hit the Ruismaker's pads but it does not read my piano-roll.
    Again, all works like a charm in Cubasis and AUM.

    Only, please tell me: I write my MIDI notes in the octave C3, that works when I use Xinthesizr to drive Ruismaker, but I've noted that Xinthesizr cares very nothing of the #s. How's that?
    To be complete: I've tried a lot of octaves in Modstep, w/o success

    It's been fixed in the latest betas so should be out to public shortly. Just be a little patient with them :)

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