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@MonzoPro that's Skytec PA912 12" active speaker. It is one of those that come with wireless mics, loads of breakdance busking troupes seem to be using them. I use it with an external battery as the internal one causes it to loose oomph after few hours. I took it to power impaktor at the party last weekend and it worked a treat.
BTW people go nuts for impaktor, I felt like a @beepstreet's demonstrator.
Ah thanks, I'll check that out. I'm putting my iPad/laptop stuff out through my Orange bass rig at the moment, but that's just silly for rehearsals so I'm looking for a portable option.
I've been doing the same through my Roland DB 500. In fact I bought two of them to be used as a pa but soon realised that the built in horn just isn't crisp enough. Also behringer's small active speakers have a decent sound, nothing in the league of mackie but not loads worse. The dj at that same party was using those (no battery tho).
The use of the neodymium magnets really does wonders with not only small iPad systems like the ILoud mentioned above but also the larger speakers as well. I picked up a pair of the Neo15's from Behringer that way less than 50 lbs. but put out a whompin 1200 watts each! Hard to believe given the small size and weight of the ILoud they still put out 40 watts and can take full volume without problems lesser speakers have from similar outputs.
The response on why the Fugoo XL didn't make the list was:
"too many compromises, only sounds good without jacket, distorts too early etc."
I tried to ask whether it was just that it didn't live up to it's price, but didn't get a second response. I got the impression from the videos that it was better than the JBLs, but not twice as good. O well, kinda like that one, maybe if it were on sale it would be a good buy.
Oh and by the way, the Flip 3 is hiding behind that Harman Kardon, so it did make the list
The Skytec is a good price, just seen one for around £100. I'll look into these a bit further I think..
Well said. FYI the Xtreme isn't even waterproof. It's main purpose in life seems to be being very loud for something so portable. But it's still quite a bit chunkier than it's smaller siblings. The Charge 3 is waterproof so if pool life is your thing then it's probably a smart choice. The Flip 3 does seem like the best choice for portability. Did you find the low end cut off to be lower than a solo minirig? Even if it's the same, at nearly half the price (depending on exchange rate here) it certainly seems like the best value. The modularity of the minirig is elegant on paper, but perhaps a bit gimmicky as far as portability goes. If a solo minirig was good enough for most portable uses then the smaller size and superior battery life (it can also charge a mobile device if you're in a pinch) could be worth the money. My lust for it hasn't diminished, but the wallet may have other plans.
Oh! He did a comparison of the Flip 3 to a solo minirig:
Lead in to comparison starts at 6:49, actual play back starts at 8:57
Looked up the specs from the manufacture websites:
JBL Flip 3 goes down to 85Hz
minirig 75Hz
At 435g for minirig vs 450g for Flip 3 smaller might be a stretch of a term, different shape to be sure, but for me weight in the bag is the thing. Half an oz isn't enough to matter to me, even if I was backpacking.
If we believe the battery life stats on their respective websites the minirig definitely has the advantage. In the end that might be what you're paying for.
Super interesting: The Flip3 sounds quite compressed in comparison and it does seem like the Minirig might be the Truest speaker in the ultra-ultra-portable range. The question is if the Minirig is worth (roughly) double the price of the Flip3.
I'd think it would be much more worth it than these $300 headphones kids wear when $150 or even $80 would be truer. However any money not spent is money towards the iPad embiggened. If I decide I need a portable aux capable speaker right now the Flip 3 is my first choice. So thanks again for the endorsement, and thanks @Soupe for starting this thread so the matter could be totally not settled in my own mind, heh. Seriously though, it's at least narrowed down
Did you ever get a definitive answer to this? Sorry to resurrect this old thread but I got a JBL Charge 2+ for Christmas and the latency is very annoying and offputting for live performances. It's only about a 0.1 s latency when wired, but it's quite noticeable to me so I'm looking to return it in exchange for a speaker with less latency...
I love my non Bluetooth minirig.
I did get the Fip 3 & have been really impressed with it.
Direct cable input has zero latency, playing Ivory Grand & all other synths has greatly surpassed my expectations!
Don't think much of their quality control then, mine was crap.
I've had a minirig speaker for a few years now, one of the original ones without Bluetooth.
It's one of the best pieces of kit I have ever bought. So ridiculous loud if you want it to be, but great at low volumes too. A lot is placement for bass etc. They are tough as well, I once dropped it 5 feet on to hard floor slabs and it didn't even leave a mark!!
Battery lasts 24hrs, took it on holiday to lanzarotte a couple of years ago, great at the pool.
Not stereo though, and on some tunes I swear it is missing a channel or something...very rarely I notice something missing.
I love my non-bluetooth one as well. I'm looking to buy a bluetooth minirig and a sub as soon as they are back in stock.
I contacted JBL customer support regarding latency on the Charge 2+ wired input. They recommended resetting it by holding the phone + volume up buttons, which reduced the latency for a while, but then it came back again (possibly after pairing it with a bluetooth device). I guess I can live with the small amount of latency and having to reset the unit from time to time, although its hardly ideal... need to get hold of a Flip 3 to test out at some point and see if it's a better option... I do like the loudness and external charging capability of the Charge though.
Try the Xtreme. It sounds great and has no latency.
I noticed that JBL Charge 2 has in deed latency in AUX input, even though far less than using Bluetooh. Anyway, playing live music with a Korg instrument was out of the question because of the lag in aux input always kept going out of rhythm. Instead, Charge 3 doesn't seem to have that lag in AUX input! So they fixed it, probably by reducing some buffer size in their DSP code (which does the equalization for the tiny speakers). Good to know that Charge 2+ has the lag too, because I almost bought that but went for 3 instead. I'm interested if JBL GO or JBL Clip 2 has the lag or not, because I've been thinking about adding them as stereo satellite speakers complementing the Charge 3 (by aux wires and splitters ofcourse, can't do with Party Mode or bluetooth alone.)