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Aphera Music Instrument Suite

Any thoughts on this one?

„Aphera Music Instrument Suite“ von george woskob
https://appsto.re/de/rASteb.i

It says it has Link but it doesn't seem to connect with other apps on my Ipad Mini 2.

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  • Just looked at the app store and the demo sounds like an 80s video game (not my thing).

  • Interesting. What is the 'output sound through another device' via wifi or Bluetooth in the app description about?

  • @DrChris said:
    Any thoughts on this one?

    „Aphera Music Instrument Suite“ von george woskob
    https://appsto.re/de/rASteb.i

    It says it has Link but it doesn't seem to connect with other apps on my Ipad Mini 2.

    Does it have midi out? What are your thoughts? It's cheap so that's a plus I suppose

  • Hey! I'm george, the developer of aphera music. Curious what led you to my app? I just released it yesterday so I'm excited there's some interest!

    @DrChris said:
    Any thoughts on this one?

    „Aphera Music Instrument Suite“ von george woskob
    https://appsto.re/de/rASteb.i

    It says it has Link but it doesn't seem to connect with other apps on my Ipad Mini 2.

    Have you enabled Link in the link settings? And you have bluetooth /wifi enabled? Let me know if you get it to work.

    @knewspeak said:
    Interesting. What is the 'output sound through another device' via wifi or Bluetooth in the app description about?

    The idea is that if you decide to output your instrument's sound through another device, you could use your phone as a controller for an instrument on someone else's phone. So if my friend has his phone plugged into the stereo, I could play an instrument on my phone but have the audio come out of his phone. It just requires being in the same vicinity and having bluetooth / wifi enabled.

    @db909 said:

    @DrChris said:
    Any thoughts on this one?

    „Aphera Music Instrument Suite“ von george woskob
    https://appsto.re/de/rASteb.i

    It says it has Link but it doesn't seem to connect with other apps on my Ipad Mini 2.

    Does it have midi out? What are your thoughts? It's cheap so that's a plus I suppose

    There's no midi out because the instruments are designed to be self contained.

    Thanks for checking this out! I'm really excited to hear this feedback and I'm interested in any more y'all have. I'll check back here in a bit but also feel free to email me at georgewoskob gmail.com

  • I've enabled Link but Alphera synchs with other apps only if they are opened first. If I change tempo in another app, Alphera won't follow.

    What I'm missing (or can't find) is background audio for Alphera. Pretty basic...

    There's no sort of connectivity (Audiobus or IAA), which is a pity even if Alphera is designed to be self contained.

    Nonetheless I've had some fun playing with the two instruments (especially the slide synth and its looper) hoping there's more to come.

  • Link doesn't link for me either.

  • edited August 2016

    I found an issue in my code with enabling link when the app comes out of the background. Basically link will only be enabled when you open the app for the first time. I'm really sorry about this! I'm submitting an update today to fix this and I'll let you know when that's ready to download. I'm also looking into background audio right now. Is the idea that you'd like to play multiple instruments on your phone at the same time? I'm curious what the use case is!

    Thanks for all the feedback.

  • @apheramusic said:
    I found an issue in my code with enabling link when the app comes out of the background. Basically link will only be enabled when you open the app for the first time. I'm really sorry about this! I'm submitting an update today to fix this and I'll let you know when that's ready to download. I'm also looking into background audio right now. Is the idea that you'd like to play multiple instruments on your phone at the same time? I'm curious what the use case is!

    Thanks for all the feedback.

    Without wanting to sound sarcastic this is the Audiobus forum. Audiobus being an app for routing audio from an app or several apps playing at the same time via one or more effects into a recording app or the devices speaker.

    For your app for example the looper could be playing in the background while a synth was being played in the foreground.

    Ideally while looking at background audio you could look at incorporating Audiobus

  • edited August 2016

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @apheramusic said:
    I found an issue in my code with enabling link when the app comes out of the background. Basically link will only be enabled when you open the app for the first time. I'm really sorry about this! I'm submitting an update today to fix this and I'll let you know when that's ready to download. I'm also looking into background audio right now. Is the idea that you'd like to play multiple instruments on your phone at the same time? I'm curious what the use case is!

    Thanks for all the feedback.

    Without wanting to sound sarcastic this is the Audiobus forum. Audiobus being an app for routing audio from an app or several apps playing at the same time via one or more effects into a recording app or the devices speaker.

    For your app for example the looper could be playing in the background while a synth was being played in the foreground.

    Ideally while looking at background audio you could look at incorporating Audiobus

    Cool yeah that makes sense. I looked into it and it won't be too hard to add.

    Just submitted my update for background audio and fixed the Link issue but it'll be a couple days till that ends up on the store. That's just apple's process...

    Anyway, I was curious about your favorite instrument apps or ones that do backgrounding, audiobus, link integration well? I want some examples of where the bar is at so I know what I'm trying to hit.

  • Thanks for your engagement here and the quick update. Looking forward to it.

    If you want to know where the bar is you might take a look at Korg's Gadget. If you look at other apps you'll see that Link, Audiobus and background audio is a pretty basic feature set for most of the serious music apps.

  • edited August 2016

    @apheramusic said:
    I want some examples of where the bar is at so I know what I'm trying to hit.

    Jonatan Liljedahl articles present best practice.

    Audio Unit support: multiple instances, reduced resource requirements, exposure of parameters for external control.

    Klevgrand have consistently nice interfaces

  • Thanks @apheramusic for the update! Background Audio and Ableton Link work fine. Hoping for new instruments now...

  • edited September 2016

    @DrChris You're welcome! Audiobus integration will be next. New instrument in a couple months unfortunately. For sure by the end of the year.

  • App looks fun. AB support will definitely generate more interest around these parts, obviously.

    There is a developer forum here if you haven't already seen it. With regard to the proverbial bar, think that's where ever you want to put it. As far as bars set by other indie developers, think you'll find that Kymatica, Sonosaurus, Olympia Noise Co, Holderness Media, Yonac, Hubletune, Klevgrand, Audanika and A Tasty Pixel are all consistently held in high regard here on the forum (the latter two having teamed up to create Audiobus). Plenty of other great music making apps out there, no doubt, those are just the first ones that came to mind as devs who have put out multiple apps of high quality, all sitting squarely in the 'plays well with others' camp.

    Is there a video of aphera it in action?

  • ...and here it is: Audiobus support. Thank you developer!
    „Aphera Music Instrument Suite“ von george woskob
    https://appsto.re/de/rASteb.i

  • Hey, that's really fun and the controls can get fairly complex. Grabbed it. Works great in AUM & Link appears well executed. And universal? For a buck?! Awesome! :)

  • Picked up the app to support this responsive developer. Having fun with it.

  • edited September 2016

    I think this is one to pick up and watch. It's only a $1 and I've had at least 3x that much fun with it so far. It's a little bit janky in design, but it kind of reminds me of Skram, but with more control and more tweaking available. With regard to controls... it goes a couple layers or so deeper than what you see in the demo video.

    Doesn't take up much room either, and a cheap fix to feed your addiction for the weekend. :)

  • @apheramusic said:
    @DrChris You're welcome! Audiobus integration will be next. New instrument in a couple months unfortunately. For sure by the end of the year.

    thanks for making this it looks interesting, hows the sample import on this...audioshare document picker?

  • @kobamoto said:

    @apheramusic said:
    @DrChris You're welcome! Audiobus integration will be next. New instrument in a couple months unfortunately. For sure by the end of the year.

    thanks for making this it looks interesting, hows the sample import on this...audioshare document picker?

    You can't import your own samples. There's just 2 instruments, drum and a synth that you can tweak. If you could import your own, it would be spectacular. Kinda hoping someone tells me I'm wrong and that you can indeed already roll your own.

  • For one dollar and a responsive developer who adds Audiobus I say just pick it up regardless. Ya never know when it could be just the thing to brighten your day.

  • This would actually make a pretty sweet midi instrument controller if you had one channel out for each side of the slider synth.

  • bought it, to support sample import and audio export that will hopefully come soon.

  • @syrupcore here's a video

    Glad you all found the new upgrade with Audiobus! @DrChris thanks for staying up to date!

    @kobamoto @skiphunt as far as uploading your own samples this is something I eventually want to do. Is everyone using audioshare? I'm just learning about it now. And it looks like it's good for exporting / saving audio which is a definite must have for a future update of aphera music. My original thought was to let users upload samples/clips from a browser then download their recordings from there too. Sort of like a dropbox but only for syncing between your computer and your app. Does that sound tedious?

    @db909 That synth as a midi controller would definitely be awesome! I admit that the synth sound it produces leaves something to be desired... Have that in my backlog as well.

  • edited September 2016

    Oh yeah, and would it be worth exposing each instrument you have open as its own port for Audiobus?

  • @apheramusic said:
    @syrupcore here's a video

    Glad you all found the new upgrade with Audiobus! @DrChris thanks for staying up to date!

    @kobamoto @skiphunt as far as uploading your own samples this is something I eventually want to do. Is everyone using audioshare? I'm just learning about it now. And it looks like it's good for exporting / saving audio which is a definite must have for a future update of aphera music. My original thought was to let users upload samples/clips from a browser then download their recordings from there too. Sort of like a dropbox but only for syncing between your computer and your app. Does that sound tedious?

    @db909 That synth as a midi controller would definitely be awesome! I admit that the synth sound it produces leaves something to be desired... Have that in my backlog as well.

    AudioShare for importing own samples: Yes please!!!!

    I think most use AudioShare now by the way. So much so, that it should probably be rolled into the iOS :)

    Glad to support and spread the word. It's a fun app and you're off to a stellar start.

  • @kobamoto said:
    bought it, to support sample import and audio export that will hopefully come soon.

    Same here for the same reasons

  • Yes to samples in and yes to AudioShare as the standard. Will buy to support the dev. Thanks @apheramusic for responsive development.

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