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Which app models Fender Hot Rod Deville/Fender sounds best?

emanh89emanh89
in General App Discussion

I'm currently looking into Bias/Jamup vs Amplitube and I was hoping for some guidance. Plan is to get an iRig and play this live and I was wondering if one had a significant advantage in Fender tones (deville, twin reverb, etc) over the other.

I know similar questions have been asked but I'm hoping for some advice specifically about the tone in going for. Mostly clean/some gain but nothing heavy like metal.

I really appreciate any input/guidance. Thanks!

Comments

  • wimwim

    That's a very tough question because it's impossible to know what you're hearing in your head as great tone. I can only offer my perspective, which is only based on what sounds good to me, and not really based on a lot of experience with the real tube guys.

    If I'm really going for what I think of as a Fender tone, then the Twin Reverb and the Deluxe Reverb in AmpliTube are my favorites. You can get a bit of the flavor for free by trying out the Clean amp on AmpliTube Free. I don't care for the other Fender amps (Super-Sonic, Pro Junior, and Bassman) in AmpliTube that much.

    I just can't get along at all with the Fender style amps in Bias/Jamup. They feel like they have something wrong going on with the compression in the attack. It feels like the initial transient is squashed and then kind of slides into place a few milliseconds later. Could be "realistic" (?) but ... yuck.

    I like Jamup's and Bias FX's effects a lot better than AmpliTube, so often will end up combining them.

    All that said, ToneStack beats both of them in my opinion. I can virtually always find the tone I'm looking for in there. I only turn to AmpliTube when I'm specifically trying to get a sound as much like a particular Fender amp as possible.

  • wcsswwcssw

    The warmth of those amps is hard to recreate. Personally iOS amplitude hidden behind annoying IAP menus it's lacking in its feel and movement.. The vst is pretty good though.

    Some good amp matches in bias but avoid the axe fx matches as they sound odd and seem to add strange frequencies to the tone.

    Tonestack has some decent 'copies' but I find the cab simulation lacks the air movement (I know it's odd but I own a hot rod as I love it's cleans)

  • ToMessToMess

    jamup is basically worse sounding version of bias fx that has some built in gadgets(like recorder) as well. Its basically more like all in one package for fun, while bias fx is more serious guitar sim. I dont know if amplitube has more authentic souding that particular amp, but in general, its not as authentic/good sounding as bias fx is. Basically when it comes to guitar amp sims, its tonestack if you want cheap, or bias fx if you are willing to pay a bit more. Rest simply doesent compare to them. Also one cool thing about bias fx is that you can load IAA apps on its signal chain, so you can get fiddlicator for free and use impulse responses(there are tons of free ones on interwebs) for it to get even better cab sim, which might help getting that best hot rod tone you are looking for.

  • MatthewMatthew

    Bias sounds anything but real to me. I think Amplitube comes closest.

  • TelefunkyTelefunky
    edited September 2016

    looks like we all got real hardcore deviation in listening...
    I have Amplitube Fender on PC: flat sounding, muddy
    Tonestack: lots of sizzle, harsh, the convolution effects are horrible
    (compare the spring reverb to the one in JamUp)
    For me the original BIAS/JamUp just cuts it ...
    (not the very first release, though... about the time BIAS was released they had a stunning improvement of their engine - no such thing happened again)

    But I don't trust the FX version (and anything PG or their community publishes)
    For a simple reason:
    BIAS had several bugs in the past that went unnoticed in public, so obviously some folks might be close to deaf ... >:)
    The one I remember best: 1 channel of the stereo output was inverted (which took 3 months to fix) while people continued to praise the tone of the app.

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