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USB mics.. Latency on Apogee mic96k?
What's the deal with this mic not having a headphone monitoring input? It sounds so good otherwise? Anyone ever try? Any extreme latency issues? I like the Blue Spark Digital bit at 16 bit I read reports that it's noisy.. Also wondering about the Irig studio.. Keep in mind this is all for lead vocals.. Thoughts?
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I have this and while I don't do it any justice it has faithfully (painfully) recorded all I've thrown at it and on time. Benefits from a pop-screen/sock. Son (13) is typically contrarian and thus has just bought himself a Blue Yeti. Be interested to see how that compares...
Hmmm..I've gotta buy a mic tomorrow..I'm leaning toward the Soark digital which seems like the best thing going for iOS.
I've got the original Apogee Mic and a Shure MV88, I think they both work just fine. If you don't need the portability you can get an inexpensive audio interface with direct monitoring and use whatever mic you want. I've become much less of a fan of Apoogee as of late. A lot of their products seem to inexplicably lack what I would consider essential features. Their support for Mac, which is the only platfoirm they supported until recently, is surprisingly bad and even iOS isn't great. A lot of the control over the Apogee One for example requires their Maestro app, but it only works if it's connected directly to the iPad with their lightning cable. And even then the firmware updater has never been able to recognize what version of firmware the device is already running. Not to mention the irritation of breakout cables.
whenever you want to hear the microphone signal while recording, this signal is passed through the software chain, which slightly delays it (called latency).
This delay is perceived different by differnt people:
some are ok with it and take it similiar to a room echo or a tiny bit of chorus, others are annoyed and can't stand it.
Usually the 'unnoticable' value is 2-3 ms, but this setting may produce clicks from overloading with demanding effect apps or background stuff.
There's no right or wrong, it's an entirely subjective issue - some performers don't use monitoring at, for example playing a guitar and singing...
When you're a loud singer and don't ever track an acoustic guitar you can get along quite well with 16bit recordings (given that it's a quality device that makes use of those 16bits).
Some stuff declared as 16 bit on paper effectively delivers 13bit performance...
With rather silent sources you're better off with 24bits, which effectively reduces the noisefloor level.
Very dynamic stuff like from whisper to shout requires 24bit if you want to track it in one take.
After all it depends on the final quality you expect. One can spent a fortune on mics...
I'm not sure I understand @Telefunky
The mic I bought has a headphone output that promises zero latency. I believe this is due to it not going through the software chain. There is also a mix knob so you can decide how much direct signal versus output from the iPad. I would imagine that many of the mics with headphone output would work this way.
yes, this type of mic exists: there's a full bi-directional USB audio path (the 'mic' acts as a soundcard) plus an analog mixer that splits the signal just before the converter and adds it to the output after digital to analog (output) conversion.
But there are also mics without this 'direct' mixer and even without any output at all, like the Apogee mic in this topic.
Monitoring via microphone is sensitive to mechanical cable noise
It's almost inevitable that if you move your head and the cable scratches over clothes or whatever that some sound ist transmitted to the housing and then to the capsule.
May not be very obvious on first listen, but just try by recording silence in your room and then move around a bit.
Admittedly I'm a kind of sound fanatic with mics and preamps - for me USB mics are a complete nogo. A good micpreamp start's at $200 today and one of it's most important aspects is clean power supply. USB will always spoil the party...
My Alesis ioDock (1st gen) had it's noise level improved for at least 6dB by a battery powered preamp stage (from a cheap old reel-to-reel mixer)
(the 1st input stage of a preamp is highly sensitive to noise, a battery is almost noise free)