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Weird Sounds from Addictive Pro + Indian sounds of choice Drumjam?
Sorry about two topics in one post, but figured I'd consolidate.
I'm intrigued by Addictive Pro and the sounds in the demos, but is this more of a "tune-making" tool? Or, is it a good tool for sculpting weird sounds for soundscapes? I don't really need another synth to be honest, but I grabbed Magellan this last sale and found it good for more things than I'd anticipated. I also didn't think I'd get as much milage out of MitoSynth and now Grain Science.
So, although I know Addictive Pro gets a fairly unanimous thumbs up from everybody... is it great and unique sound-sculpting tool too? Or, more of an actual player's tool?
Second... I don't really have any great Indian sounds other than an Indian-inspired pack for Launchpad. I've seen several Indian sound apps pop on the scene from time to time, but folks seem to most often refer back to Drumjam. I always thought Drumjam was really more targeted at drummers in general, but is it the tool of choice for Indian percussive sounds too?
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On the first point, I've just this minute put down my iPad after a half hour soundscape splurge in Addictive Pro. I've been so impressed with the arp I've been in a rhythmic frenzy since getting it, but tonight I was just as impressed with it's pads and soundscapimg abilities.
Absolutely the best synth in my iPad for this - the x/y pads and synth controls put it (IMHO) above anything else I have. Others are close, but from a synth perspective this does the job for me.
It could be other synths are just as good, but the UI and controls of AP make it easier for me to control.
Cool. I'm trying to think through my purchases a bit more and make sure it's something I will actually use. Even if it's something to learn from, like my Lemur purchase. I hear some good sound coming from Addictive Pro in the demo videos, but most of it's fairly musical and melodic. I wanted to know if it also was a good tool for designing and creating interesting drones and/or soundscapes.
Bought Addictive Pro. Yep. Diggin it.
Just my opinion:
Addictive Pro has a lot of tools in there. You have multiple filtration and Oscs. You have a wonderful wonderful Arp. You have XY pads. If you need more movement during a sound, you have midi learn. That's the key. Get those parameters moving.
So Addictive Pro is great for playing and evolving tones.
DrumJam is one of the most creative apps on iPad. Way more than just a drum app. Too early to write an essay on its delights
Yep, last night I pressed the hold button, hit a low note and I went off and played around with a big, complex evolving drone. I like doing that stuff too but I bought AP for the rhythmic stuff - pleased to note it excels at the drone noises too - probably because if the amount of control it provides, and the depth of sound it creates.
I'm 100% pleased with my purchase - the only down side is I won't need to open the old Addictive or Poseidon synths any more.
@MonzoPro
Weird you should say that, as I've gone back to making sounds with Poseidon again now I have Addictive Pro. I find it ideal for quickly making more subdued almost hidden sounds (I'm not describing this well). Addictive Pro seems easy to get big, dense, complex sounds that melt my heart. It will do subdued, yet personally I can get them quicker in Poseidon. A good matching pair of synths
I'll have to have another look. That one was a favourite too, but I thought AP did the same but with more things. Nice to have them anyway so I can run them all at once with Fugue.
They're not too much of an overlap to make the other redundant. One uses two sets of definitions of partials and presents views of wave versus spectrum mapping [1] and lets you vector / morph / squadge / modulate between those positions, and the other uses a stack of already defined results in a queue that you can traverse through. After that, the alteration possibilities are similar but not the same.
[1] which are just two ways of perceiving the same information, a bit like thinking about planet earth either by looking at a mercator map view of where all the continents are and where the seas are, versus, a bar graph of how much land / sea, how high the mountains are, what the temperature distributions are, and how many beetles versus everything else there are.
Check out SwarPlug. AU instrument. You can check out the many sounds in app. Sound good to me.
SwarPlug by Swar Systems
https://appsto.re/gb/3HQ0db.i
+1
Nothing against Drumjam which is a must-have for many reasons, but SwarPlug is the real deal Indian instrument app (perc and melodic) for iOS and just updated to include IAA and Audiobus with state-saving.
SwarPlug is a cool app. Just a little expensive for my personal need / price ratio at this time (I'm not saying it's expensive for what you get or over priced). If the individual prices ever drop by half, I will be all over it
I looked at SwarPlug and was intrigued, but I don't know enough about Indian music/sounds to know which IAPs would really be needed. I almost got it for the sounds that come with it, until I read it only comes with one.
I listened to some demos of the North Indian pack for DrumJam and liked it.
Still thinking though. If I could narrow down the most essential SwarPlug IAPs, or if there was a sale, I might be swayed in that direction.
My only regret with Addictive Pro, was that I bought it later in the evening... when I really wanted to try and get a good night sleep. And, ended up messing with it far too late. Kept wanting to try and play with just one more warping sound.
The arp in it is more than I thought it'd be. I thought it'd be much simpler than it is. Really like it, but can't figure out what the little blue and tan tabs at the top of the arp are for. Will have to check the help out. Couldn't find a manual.
Wished we could do a live Addictive Pro noise jam
@skiphunt
The SwarPlug update includes onboard preview clips of all instruments (which are also listenable on their website)
Thanks. I checked out their site for SwarPlug, but it's the desktop version and the latest video is for SwarPlug3. Does that function exactly the same as the iPad app?
I'd also looked for sound samples on their site, but had only seen the various multipacks. Hadn't thought to click through to hear all the individual sounds within each pack. I'm guessing these desktop sounds are exactly the same as the IAP sounds within the iPad app?
Lastly, it looks like from the desktop demo video that there are some loops or some kind of sequencer built-in, but from the description of the iPad app, doesn't appear to have it's own sequencer or come with the same loops? I could be reading that wrong.
Going to listen to more DrumJam Indian Pack demos too.
Haven't got it in front of me but think that's the note glide/hold feature
I'd recommend starting with a really simple one track sequence - it's easier to see what does what that way
Im a big fan of AP synth. I dont understand the underlying theory and thats usually important to me. I understand substractive synths but wavetables and additive are a dark art for me still. When I make a patch I try to keep it as simple as possible and make a sound like a saw or a square might sound like with the waveform and spectrum tabs then mod it a bit and then take it to the arp. The results are amazing. This is the first app that has me creating awesome (literally) soundscapes/drones. Thank you @VirSyn (gush over)
it does contained example sequences and a keyboard in the stand alone version. The sequences are midi, and can be imported into Cubasis, for example. They are a study in themselves. 11 beat tabla rhythm anyone?
By the blue and tan tabs on the Arp, do you mean the ones labeled Tie and Accent?
Yes. I didn't see the labels before.. but I don't hear much change, if any, when they are selected.
On the Drumjam Q - by all means if you want Indian percussion this is the way to go! And definitely for non drummers!