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Airpods - will they change Apple's attitude about about Bluetooth on iOS?
Now that Apple is pushing the Airpods, I'm wondering if synth and related apps will be allowed to play through them...
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They will and do but latency over bluetooth is way too much for playing.
Both AirPlay and BT have to have too high audio-latency.
I tried to use a BT-Headset with some of the music-apps I have but the latency drives me nuts.
For listening to music where it doesn't matter if the music starts to play 0.5-1 seconds after you press play it's ok I guess and that is the 'target audience' for Apple.
'Wifi-Audio' should have the bandwidth and latency issues covered (802.1ac network) but it would rain the batteries in no time and it would need a new 'stadard protocol' for real-time audio...
Thanks! Forgot about the latency bugaboo. :-(
Did you have use the airpods?, how did you get to do that? . As far as I know airpods are not available for sale anywhere. I was curious as it's not the average Bluetooth solution for audio. What a shame, where did you get to play with them and what synths did you use?
I don't have the new 'AirPods' but I've tried a load of other BT-Headsets and BT-Speakers and the latency is there.
I really do doubt the new 'AirPods' will bring changes the latency issues as they are primarily done for 'media consumption' and 'talking' where latency is not really an issue.
It's not like Apple 'magically' got rid of BT-Audio latency.
What the W1 chip does is to make the pairing-process easier.(And no I will not buy the Apple AirPods).
Who knows?, iPhones and iPads are consumer devices where audio latency it's not really a problem for 99.99% of people but nonetheless it's been solved since the beginning. I'm not buying the airpods either (volume control sucks) but I will give them a try just to see first hand, there might be something in there.
And what exactly are you basing these statements on ?
I'm not sure what you're asking me but I'll try to explain each statement i made. No hard data of course but these are very general and superficial observations.
I think the success of android devices it's enough proof that audio latency doesn't matter to most people and it's not a requirement to make a successful ecosystem. I think iOS music apps started showing up on the AppStore very early which shows low latency audio was there since the very beginning. And iPhone and iPad are consumer devices.
Oh. I thougt you meant the latency issues with BT audio was solved since the beginning.
Anyway, you do seem to suggest, that the relative success for IOS regarding music apps is down to relatively low latency, so it must be of some importance, even if only for 0.01% of people.
If anything it's an enabling condition. But I guess Apple's primary motivation for offering good audio performance had more to do with making iOS a great platform for high-performance game development.
May be wrong, but sometimes it seems there's a perception Bluetooth is an apple thing - it's not. The original spec was written in the 90s as an alternative to an rs232 connection, and the current spec is written by an association of manufacturers - 25000 members strong (although most likely the top 5% of those carry the most weight). Apple only joined this association last year I believe. Just joining the ranks with companies like Ericsson, Intel, Nokia, toshiba and Microsoft
It's all about being a LOW COST and LOW POWER CONSUMPTION network connection. Samu is right - 80211ac would be the minimum as of today for the kind of acceptable latency Musician's might could use. Think of it like this; Bluetooth is like an IV drip, 80211 is like a garden hose, cat6 is a fire hose.
Also to keep in mind - Bluetooth is a hardware level format. BT5 is scheduled for next year, double the current speed (2 IV drips). But none of the current phones, tablets, printers, ear pieces or speakers will benefit from that, only next years generation of hardware.