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Lurssen Mastering Console users please help

Hi folks, I'm running the most recent version of LCM with full functionality on an iPad Air 2 with iOS 10.0.2.

Since updating to 10.0.2, Lurssen isn't remembering the previous session''s settings for me. I've deleted and reinstalled the app with no joy.

Can anyone confirm this behavior?

Thank you.

Comments

  • Still on 9.3.5. so I canˋt help.But your post makes the waiting for the AuriaPro update to iOS10 easier.
    Bad news though because I´m a fan of LMC!

  • @Schimanski said:
    Still on 9.3.5. so I canˋt help.But your post makes the waiting for the AuriaPro update to iOS10 easier.
    Bad news though because I´m a fan of LMC!

    Thanks, anyway. I''ll let you know what happens. The support process is tedious. I understand they have to rule out user error, but I've been back and forth a few times now with no answers. I'm pretty sure this is a bug. Hoping someone will chime in who can test.

  • edited October 2016

    in the meantime: do you have a before-after example that you consider great ?
    I'd rather trust your tracks than the supplier's ;)
    iirc you once called LMC 'better' than the Positive Grid thing, which I have... but that's just too top-fourty-ish
    (of course only if it just happens to be on your disk and doesn't take any effort)

  • @Telefunky said:
    in the meantime: do you have a before-after example that you consider great ?
    I'd rather trust your tracks than the supplier's ;)
    iirc you once called LMC 'better' than the Positive Grid thing, which I have... but that's just too top-fourty-ish
    (of course only if it just happens to be on your disk and doesn't take any effort)

    Here's a song I mastered with Final Touch on SoundCloud

    Here's the same song mastered with LMC.

    https://artienorton.bandcamp.com/track/fly-like-angels

    Interested to hear what you think.

  • edited October 2016

    well, that's pretty easy... a no brainer
    The Final Touch bass sounds like cardboard, tinny high mids, LMC is smoother and melts it together much better, a clear winner in this particular case.
    If this gets you going on IOS alone, the price is justified - the difference isn't subtle.
    Thanks for providing some real life impression B)

  • @Telefunky said:
    well, that's pretty easy... a no brainer
    The Final Touch bass sounds like cardboard, tinny high mids, LMC is smoother and melts it together much better, a clear winner in this particular case.
    If this gets you going on IOS alone, the price is justified - the difference isn't subtle.
    Thanks for providing some real life impression B)

    Glad to help.

    I may have made some subtle mixing changes on the LCM version (and I know mastering is all about subtleties) but it's definitely got more punch, smoother top end, clarity and separation of frequencies, and I love how it handles reverb. It sounds good.

    Now I just need someone to test it on iOS 10.0.2.

  • @Telefunky I did a comparison between LMC and Fabfilter Pro L a few months back, I will repost it here:

    A simple comparison between two of the Lurssen presets vs using Fabfilter Pro L on the Master Bus in Auria. All the WAV files are 24bit exports from Auria and Lurssen.

    The first is the mix with Pro L, which is how I prefer to work as it lets me control the levels of the arrangement at the mix stage, so I tend to mix the verse slightly quieter and then in the chorus I deliberately slam the limiter:

    FabFilter Master

    The next two mixes were exported out of Auria with Pro L disabled and the Master level turned down so that the full dynamic range of the track was available (no limiting), and I ran the file through two of the presets in Lurssen:

    Lurssen Master Pop Rock preset

    Lurssen Master Americana Tight (More Glue) preset

    If anyone wants to dabble with the un-mastered mix, that is also available here.

  • you really beat the shit out of it... ;)
    damn, that's loud - for my humble taste a bit overloud, but this may be a matter of taste.
    Yet the Lurssen performs quite well if you're into that style of processing.
    There's a massive low end, and of course the loudness comes at the expense of grain and slight distortion.
    Did you apply the Pro-L in one go or successively in multiple steps ?
    I frequently use a similiar plugin on the desktop DAW and prefer to repeat the reduction process a couple of times, which prevents a lot of distortion.

  • Yes, I like to push things beyond the bounds of good taste in a chorus :) though usually I keep it more restrained in the verses - so that there are "loud" bits but also some dynamics in the song.

    I also quite like a little bit of distortion because it helps to mush things together, conceptually I prefer the wall-of-sound approach rather than clarity. Having said that I'm still learning and my ears are not that refined yet, I may change my approach with more experience.

    I use one pass of Pro L. To my ears there wasn't much difference between the Pro L version compared to the Lurssen version, but that's a compliment to the Lurssen app.

  • edited October 2016

    In fact there isn't much difference with whatever tool applied to a mix supposed to be squashed that hard...
    The blown up low end is (unquestionable) way over the top - the other stuff is more or less a matter of taste.
    You might consider to extend your mixing approach with the song's emotional dynamics in mind.
    'Mastering' at the stage of the 'no limiting mix' is rather pointless - or extremely tedious.
    Your performance is tight and flawless, imho the mix deserves some attention before it gets to loudness.
    But I admit that I wouldn't want to do that (what entered my mind when listening) on an iPad.
    So your 'quick and dirty approach' is understandable ;)
    btw I found your examples quite helpful for estimation of real world performance versus ads or specs.

  • @supanorton said:
    Hi folks, I'm running the most recent version of LCM with full functionality on an iPad Air 2 with iOS 10.0.2.

    Since updating to 10.0.2, Lurssen isn't remembering the previous session''s settings for me. I've deleted and reinstalled the app with no joy.

    Can anyone confirm this behavior?

    Thank you.

    Just want to bump my original post.

  • Can't help unfortunately, I'm still on iOS9 for now. I normally upgrade around May, once all the bugs are fixed. Although this year it might be sooner, only Auria and Lurssen seem to be broken.

  • @richardyot said:
    Can't help unfortunately, I'm still on iOS9 for now. I normally upgrade around May, once all the bugs are fixed. Although this year it might be sooner, only Auria and Lurssen seem to be broken.

    I usually wait too. Live and learn. Thanks, RIchard.

  • edited October 2016

    To be honest, I can't think of a single benefit to upgrading the iPad to iOS 10. On the phone a couple of the new features are vaguely useful (raise to wake, notifications). On the iPad, it's all a big fat meh.

  • @richardyot said:
    To be honest, I can't think of a single benefit to upgrading the iPad to iOS 10. On the phone a couple of the new features are vaguely useful (raise to wake, notifications). On the iPad, it's all a big fat meh.

    I love having to press the home button an extra time.

  • @supanorton said:

    @richardyot said:
    To be honest, I can't think of a single benefit to upgrading the iPad to iOS 10. On the phone a couple of the new features are vaguely useful (raise to wake, notifications). On the iPad, it's all a big fat meh.

    I love having to press the home button an extra time.

    You can turn that off in the accessibility settings.

  • @mrufino1

    Thank you. Best part of my day.

  • @mrufino For a dummy like me.How do you do that?Would make a VERY GOOD day for me too!

  • also can't find that, the function is not shown here under 'Home Button' (iPad Mini 2)

  • General -> Accessibility -> Home Button -> "Rest Finger to Open" should be on.

  • @Schimanski said:
    @mrufino For a dummy like me.How do you do that?Would make a VERY GOOD day for me too!

    Read @Tarekith comment, he is correct.

  • Got it.Thanks a lot!

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