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What do you do mostly:

Try to answer honestly, there is nothing wrong in any of the options.

I'm guessing most here that will answer probably use presets and dabble in programming. I could easily be wrong.

Synth use Poll
  1. How do you mostly use your iOS Synths51 votes
    1. I programme and use my own sounds religiously from scratch
        9.80%
    2. I programme my own sounds and will use presets as templates when it helps
      13.73%
    3. I programme mostly, but don't mind using presets on occasion
      21.57%
    4. I mostly use presets mostly, but dabble in the dark arts on occasion
      49.02%
    5. I use presets and never bother to programme my own sounds
        5.88%
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Comments

  • I very rarely use presets. I love making sounds, more so than creating the track they are used in oddly.

  • @LeeB said:
    I very rarely use presets. I love making sounds, more so than creating the track they are used in oddly.

    Same here if I'm honest ;)

  • What about: I programme my patches starting from randomized patches or casual presets?
    BTW: 00_INIT is a preset

  • @mschenkel.it said:
    What about: I programme my patches starting from randomized patches or casual presets?
    BTW: 00_INIT is a preset

    Init counts as programming your own in this case. Unless you don't alter it at all! Haha

    Randomised patches. Hmmm never even considered them. From casual presets, it's option 2 or option 3 if you use presets as well.

  • Has to be an INIT for me.

  • @LeeB said:
    Has to be an INIT for me.

    Yeah most synths have an INIT anyway even hardware synths. It's only really those that have no programme saves that don't. Playing the INIT alone without altering it would be a new catagory called 'looney' ;)

  • :)
    The short story long is:
    I try to separate sound design from music making. In the first scenario I try to start from init or random while in the latter often I find myself needing a certain kind of sound as quick as possible so I search for the most comprehensive and generic sound bank with the best preset browsing system to chase that very sound I was looking for. Couldn't yet find the perfect match for this on iOS; missing the NI preset browser

  • I love concocting my own sounds. My wife is an excellent cook, and I approach synthesis in the same manner.

  • @mschenkel.it said:
    :)
    The short story long is:
    I try to separate sound design from music making. In the first scenario I try to start from init or random while in the latter often I find myself needing a certain kind of sound as quick as possible so I search for the most comprehensive and generic sound bank with the best preset browsing system to chase that very sound I was looking for. Couldn't yet find the perfect match for this on iOS; missing the NI preset browser

    Maybe I should separate them more. To be honest I like sound design and then jamming with the sounds more than recording and mixing anything.

    Yeah that NI preset browser sure looks the biz for finding something

  • I tend to use raw or slightly tweaked presets.
    Almost never start with an init. But I keep getting distracted. Someone mentioned Patchblocks in a comment & that led to a NS1nanosynth (conveniently both on sale @ PerfectCircuit!) which led to dragging out the soldering iron & building fun circuitry. This is madness, I'm lovin it...

  • I mainly make my own, but while making a song....I rarely just make a sound. When making a song I'll think i want a particular sort of sound, load a synth with that type of sound, and depending on the actual synth I will either start from INIT (for subtractive as I understand these the most), or browse presets for additive (PM/FM) as I am still not fully clued up on programming them, but I am getting better :), until i find something close to what I want, and then I will program from there.
    It is very rare for me to use a preset in a final piece.

  • I create presets for myself from scratch. I'll spend long sessions just creating sounds, to be saved for later use. I hate doing sound design and composition at the same time.

  • I would normally say I programme all my own from scratch, ignoring the presets, but the truth is, there's often something clever or specific which I hadn't thought of in an occasional preset, so I do take a nose through to gain additional enlightenment from the work of others.

  • Presets with minimal tweaking. I focus more on getting the song getting done and less on inventing a cool and unique synth patch. I also figure these preset people would make better sounds than what I would waste my time trying to come up with.

  • INIT for me. I too wanna get songs done, but a lotta times the presets will take me longer ro go backward and reshape it into what I want. But then sometimes I fail and just throw it all out the window.

  • edited October 2016

    @db909 said:
    I hate doing sound design and composition at the same time.

    Hm, i dont know
    I always prepare a few sounds and sequences
    And then I just start messing about
    What I end up with is never what I started with not the sound not the seq not the arrangement, Its this journey from here to there that I like.
    I like it when everything is fluid and I can change my mind anytime I want to to.
    I feel like while I'm tweaking the sound it tells me how it wants be played...

    Sometimes this is really great and sometimes I just fuck it up in 3 minutes and have no idea how to get back to 3 minutes ago. Lol
    I like to experiment.

    I don't use Sounds from other people,
    Sometimes I look into the presets to see if I haved missed some tricks, but that's about it.

  • Preset tweaker, occasional init mucker.

    The part i enjoy most with music is just finding sounds that play off each other in interesting ways and messing with their context to make unlikely partners. It is like how a set designer or wardrobe department in a film does not have to custom make every component to assemble something stunning and creative. Well that is the intention anyway ;)

  • I rarely use presets even my own presets, I suck at composing and theory so making sounds, tweaking and automating is where I get the most creative fun from.

  • I suck at playing Keys, suck even more at trying to come up with my own presets. I mostly use presets, and I really like the sounds of the ones I use, in the 100+ synths available to me on my ipad. Except for Lorentz and Laplace, I'm not sure I have the time or ability to make anything worthwhile.

    Now, if anyone wants to send me their presets for the synths I have, that would be cool. lol.

  • Maybe I should separate them more. To be honest I like sound design and then jamming with the sounds more than recording and mixing anything.

    Yes, that sums me up nicely. And the iPad is a great tool for that!

  • I sit someplace between these two:

    • I programme my own sounds and will use presets as templates when it helps
    • I programme mostly, but don't mind using presets on occasion

    Making sounds is why I got interested in synthesizers to begin with. But I don't feel musically encumbered when I sit in front of a piano, rhodes, wurlitzer, etc. Maybe put another way, I do take pride in crafting my own sounds but if a preset moves me to make music I'm not going to ignore it simply because it's a sound made by someone else.

    I guess context matters too. If the goal is sound design for-the-love-of-synthesis sort of thing, INIT every time. If I'm in the middle of trying to capture an idea and need an organ sound or a bass sound, I'm way more likely to find one that's close and either capture the idea immediate or use it as a template than I am to hit INIT and rebuild it.

    In that same sense, complexity of the synth in question probably matters too. INIT to bass-sound-in-my-head would (for me) take a while in Cassini or iVS3 but is very quick to cook up in iSem or Sunrizer.

  • Every which way.
    Often presets that ship with synths, bounced off each other, give me ideas for entire pieces.
    Some of our people here (@RustiK, @cinebient etc) have made banks for favorite synths that are incredible, and their presets have become starting points for many seperate adventures.
    I also roll my own and keep them handy for tracks, as mentioned above the sound design is a seperate full IOS joy.

  • @High5denied said:
    Now, if anyone wants to send me their presets for the synths I have, that would be cool. lol.

    Name 'em. Probably I can sort something out.

  • @High5denied said:
    I suck at playing Keys, suck even more at trying to come up with my own presets. I mostly use presets, and I really like the sounds of the ones I use, in the 100+ synths available to me on my ipad. Except for Lorentz and Laplace, I'm not sure I have the time or ability to make anything worthwhile.

    Now, if anyone wants to send me their presets for the synths I have, that would be cool. lol.

    Here's one of my banks for Sunrizer, mainly chords pads, bass. 64 patches https://www.dropbox.com/s/ojhriw4eomef8f8/Lee B Bank 1.srb?dl=0

    Enjoy!

  • @mschenkel.it said:

    @High5denied said:
    Now, if anyone wants to send me their presets for the synths I have, that would be cool. lol.

    Name 'em. Probably I can sort something out.

    Well, as a guitar player, I pretty much have got every synth out there. Well, there are a few I don't have, lol. I will see which synths I may be lacking in presets and let you know.

    Thank you

    I appreciate it!

  • I barely have enough time in my life to compose and record songs, much less spend it creating patches from scratch. I know how to tweak the presets I use when necessary, though, and I occasionally like to play in sound design as a separate endeavor although I'm far more experimental with FX than the base patches. I also actually consider matching up complementary pre-existing sounds a well-developed skill of mine. :wink:

  • @oddSTAR said:
    I also actually consider matching up complementary pre-existing sounds a well-developed skill of mine. :wink:

    It's called 'arrangement'. ;) I'm shitty at it.

  • For all those that answered 'religiously from scratch', how would I go about recreating the sound that occurs at about 15s (if you have access to a better encoding, please listen to that, this one seems terrible) Currently obsessing over it. I'm thinking FRUM (might just be fishing for excuses to buy) or Mersenne could be a good place to start. Other synths I already have, in case they would be a good place to start: DRC, Elastic Drums, Gadget, Galileo, iDS-10, Magellan, Micrologue, Module, and Viking. Or you could make the case for why I need another synth ;)

  • I play acoustic piano, I build one from scratch for every song. You wouldn't believe the cost of ivory these days.

  • @sirdavidabraham said:
    I play acoustic piano, I build one from scratch for every song. You wouldn't believe the cost of ivory these days.

    Ha!

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