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  • @pedro said:

    @Artmuzz said:
    Can anyone confirm if the Surface Pro 3 uses a x86 chipset? I find this difficult to believe as my Surface Pro 3 uses an Intel Core i7 CPU and 8GB ram which I thought was 64bit.

    All Intel CPUs since the Intel Core 2 Duo are 64-bit (which is roughly 10 years old). You wouldn't be able to use more than 3GB RAM with an x86 architecture.

    So I wonder why a poster on here replied to my comment saying the Surface Pro 3 uses a x86 chipset.

  • @jbvdb said:
    Nope, I am with @chimp_spanner on this one! Reason 9 is cool! Beats the socks off gadget any day! Or most other synth apps out there! I would miss Animoog tho!

    Sure, I'm not disrespecting the quality of Reason. I'd even agree that it beats Gadget, in many ways. But what it doesn't do is provide wonderful off the wall designs such as Fugue Machine or any number of innovative IOS apps.

    FWIW, I have Logic Pro X, which I think we can agree is easily in the same league as Reason. But it's highly complex, obviously only works on the Mac, and is nowhere near as much fun as my iPad.

  • @Nkersov said:

    FWIW, I have Logic Pro X … …nowhere near as much fun as my iPad.

    Aha! You've put your finger on it!

    That's why I'm not compelled to spend every hour of the day in front of LPX, despite thinking I would, when I paid for it. After all, it's got everything I could possibly want for, and more. But yes, it's just not fun. I need fun. It's surprising that it isn't, given how close it seems to GarageBand, yet it's actually a factory production-line tool, almost with a time-clock to punch in and out, beside it.

    Things should be fun. Unless it is for a military contract, there's absolutely no excuse in not making things fun. All it takes is a bit of care and thought in application of crafting. Everything should strive to be designed to be as fun as possible whilst doing what it is supposed to do. A close second to things being fun, is things being admirable. When in use, if a thing can't be fun, it should be admirable - either in construction, elegance, flow of use, attention to detail, or just plain suitability. LPX is that - I admire it immensely, it's so well designed. But yes, where's the fun?

  • @theconnactic said:
    But the Surface cannot run Auria Pro, @chimp_spanner! And currently AP does a few things no similarly priced PC DAW can. Wasn't for that, even I'd consider a Surface, even disliking Windows as much as ever, and being entrenched deeply in the Mac/iOS ecosystem.

    Imagine all the daws you could buy for half the price of an iPad Pro 2

  • @jbvdb said:

    @Nkersov said:

    @chimp_spanner said:
    The iPad Pro 2 can be as fast as it wants. Without a proper OS it's just not gonna cut it for production. Surface Pro 4 will probably cost as much, maybe even less. And if you put Reason 9 on that you've got all the pattern sequencers, effects units and synths you could ever need without all the file redundancy, app switching and other nightmares.

    No, what you have is Reason 9. I'd MUCH rather have the immense variety and dozens of quirky music making apps on IOS, AB, AUM, etc, etc.

    That said - and my intense dislike of Windows 10 notwithstanding - I'd be tempted to buy a nicely specced Surface Pro if Parallels developed reliable IOS emulation, which allowed me to use my IOS apps with the power of a Surface Pro.

    I've pretty much given up on Apple getting their heads out of their backsides long enough to actually make an iPad Pro that has 515gb storage, 12gb RAM and a breakout cable to attach anything, including external storage.

    Nope, I am with @chimp_spanner on this one! Reason 9 is cool! Beats the socks off gadget any day! Or most other synth apps out there! I would miss Animoog tho!

    Why not both? Now reason9 has link and midi out to drive all your iPad apps. Record the audio back into Reason and slice with Rex, convert audio to midi, realtime timestretch, and the new pitch correction.. also parsec2

  • @Artmuzz said:

    @Artmuzz said:

    @sirdavidabraham said:

    @Artmuzz said:

    the battery life is a huge let down probably because of the built in fan system in the Surface Pro.

    Or it could be the x86 chipset.

    I thought the chipset on the Surface Pro was 64bit considering it runs Windows 10 Pro 64bit.

    Can anyone confirm if the Surface Pro 3 uses a x86 chipset? I find this difficult to believe as my Surface Pro 3 uses an Intel Core i7 CPU and 8GB ram which I thought was 64bit.

    It's 64bit

  • @mireko_2 said:
    Why not both? Now reason9 has link and midi out to drive all your iPad apps. Record the audio back into Reason and slice with Rex, convert audio to midi, realtime timestretch, and the new pitch correction.. also parsec2

    >

    All of which Ithink is possible with my Logic Pro X. But either way I still have to sit in my office before a computer. With my iPad I can work anywhere anywhen.

  • edited October 2016

    @Artmuzz said:

    @pedro said:

    @Artmuzz said:
    Can anyone confirm if the Surface Pro 3 uses a x86 chipset? I find this difficult to believe as my Surface Pro 3 uses an Intel Core i7 CPU and 8GB ram which I thought was 64bit.

    All Intel CPUs since the Intel Core 2 Duo are 64-bit (which is roughly 10 years old). You wouldn't be able to use more than 3GB RAM with an x86 architecture.

    So I wonder why a poster on here replied to my comment saying the Surface Pro 3 uses a x86 chipset.

    64bit and x86 are not mutually exclusive
    AMD introduced x86-64 many years ago and Intel eventually followed suit.

    So here it's about x86 vs ARM. Latest iPad chips are also 64bit (ARM64)

    ARM is known for low power, x86 is not. Which is why I mentioned this could be one of the reasons for the battery performance on Surface

  • @Nkersov said:

    @Tovokas said:
    Auria, Procreate, Ulysses,

    >

    The first two, for sure. But Ulysses has been my greatest disappointment in terms of IOS apps. Promised so much, delivers not a lot and is clunky. Scrivener, on the other hand, is all it's cracked up to be!

    That's interesting, I adore Ulysses on iOS: Smooth, flexiible, elegant, awesome export functionality... just a fantastic writing app. I was a longtime user of Scrivener on the desktop, and have heard good things about the (at long last) released iOS app, but don't see a reason to switch at this point. I guess it's just like music apps in that different programs fit different workflows. (I love working in Markdown).

  • @Nkersov said:

    @jbvdb said:
    Nope, I am with @chimp_spanner on this one! Reason 9 is cool! Beats the socks off gadget any day! Or most other synth apps out there! I would miss Animoog tho!

    Sure, I'm not disrespecting the quality of Reason. I'd even agree that it beats Gadget, in many ways. But what it doesn't do is provide wonderful off the wall designs such as Fugue Machine or any number of innovative IOS apps.

    FWIW, I have Logic Pro X, which I think we can agree is easily in the same league as Reason. But it's highly complex, obviously only works on the Mac, and is nowhere near as much fun as my iPad.

    ableton live is quite fun though.

  • @Tovokas said:

    . I guess it's just like music apps in that different programs fit different workflows. (I love working in Markdown).

    Sure, that's a part of it. Ulysses looks nice, but there were too many issues for me concerning how it worked or how it didn't. Scrivener served my purposes far better, was much more versatile, and after getting the IOS version I also bought the Mac version. :)

  • @Nkersov said:

    @jbvdb said:
    Nope, I am with @chimp_spanner on this one! Reason 9 is cool! Beats the socks off gadget any day! Or most other synth apps out there! I would miss Animoog tho!

    Sure, I'm not disrespecting the quality of Reason. I'd even agree that it beats Gadget, in many ways.

    I also agree that reason 9 looks amazing (never tried it, only saw video demos/tutorials).
    But Reason and Gadget are different softwares (one being - at least - 7 times more exepnsive than the other)...
    And IMHO when working on a mobile touch screen device, it seems to me that Gadget socks off Reason. I would not like to try to use Reason with my fingers on a 12,7 inch screen personnaly. And the "simplicity" of Gadget might be a creativity fuel for some (like it is for me... I make new tracks reagularly since I got an iPad and I never created so many tunes when I was using desktop apps and had to sit in front of my PC to make music).

  • edited October 2016

    Haven't you guys been following all the customer problems with Surface pro? In the last year we've gotten "link", then AU in Auria Pro. There are more ways to manage iOS apps than ever before. As I've said before give it two years .. A lot of ios qualms will be worked out. I have a 12.9 , no other laptop or computer and I aim to keep it that way. iOS or bust!

  • @mireko_2 said:

    Imagine all the daws you could buy for half the price of an iPad Pro 2

    I know, I have the DAW that's arguably the best out there on my Mac and hackintoshes (Logic Pro X), and still use it a lot. But If I want LPX in my backpack, I'd have to spend much more than the full price of an iPad Pro 2, and would have, say, a quarter of the flight range of it?

  • P.S.: and don't forget: I have Auria plus the FabFilter suite: do you know how much the FF suite costs on a Mac/PC? And equivalent soft synths? (just looked, and Arturia Sem is exactly 28.5 times more expensive than iSem).

  • @theconnactic said:
    P.S.: and don't forget: I have Auria plus the FabFilter suite: do you know how much the FF suite costs on a Mac/PC? And equivalent soft synths? (just looked, and Arturia Sem is exactly 28.5 times more expensive than iSem).

    This. I've spent a fair amount on my iOS apps, but it's a drop in the ocean compared to what I would spend on Mac/PC software to do the same.

  • I'm not sure how good Mac / PCs are these days, but back when I owned a home studio, my PCs took a lot of upkeep. My investment in time to keep them running (not to mention the cost in electric for the studio) was quite a large investment. A large time taken from actually making any sound.

  • I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

  • @skiphunt said:
    I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

    A ) It's all personal. The sheepdog you have is of no use to me, my lapdog looks silly to you etc etc.

    B ) Despite the foregoing there are leaps forward and there are money grabs. Perhaps, for your use, the 4 to Air didn't deliver enough difference (for you) despite the marketing (which is their job after all :). I can see that. For me, the leap from the Air1 to the Pro 12.9 was/is a huge and significant one. The Air1 was the best piece of technology -in terms of pleasure, use, creativity etc- that I had ever spent money on. The 12.9 now easily owns that title. For me.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @Nkersov said:

    FWIW, I have Logic Pro X … …nowhere near as much fun as my iPad.

    Aha! You've put your finger on it!

    That's why I'm not compelled to spend every hour of the day in front of LPX, despite thinking I would, when I paid for it. After all, it's got everything I could possibly want for, and more. But yes, it's just not fun. I need fun. It's surprising that it isn't, given how close it seems to GarageBand, yet it's actually a factory production-line tool, almost with a time-clock to punch in and out, beside it.

    Things should be fun. Unless it is for a military contract, there's absolutely no excuse in not making things fun. All it takes is a bit of care and thought in application of crafting. Everything should strive to be designed to be as fun as possible whilst doing what it is supposed to do. A close second to things being fun, is things being admirable. When in use, if a thing can't be fun, it should be admirable - either in construction, elegance, flow of use, attention to detail, or just plain suitability. LPX is that - I admire it immensely, it's so well designed. But yes, where's the fun?

    Bing, bing, bing.

  • edited October 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

    A ) It's all personal. The sheepdog you have is of no use to me, my lapdog looks silly to you etc etc.

    B ) Despite the foregoing there are leaps forward and there are money grabs. Perhaps, for your use, the 4 to Air didn't deliver enough difference (for you) despite the marketing (which is their job after all :). I can see that. For me, the leap from the Air1 to the Pro 12.9 was/is a huge and significant one. The Air1 was the best piece of technology -in terms of pleasure, use, creativity etc- that I had ever spent money on. The 12.9 now easily owns that title. For me.

    C) Not knocking the larger one. Haven't even played with one yet. Might change my tune. It's just as a photographer, visual person, I'm more drawn to the claims of the True-Tone display of the smaller Pro. And, I like to travel via motorcycle with mine, so space for camera stuff, electronics, etc. is at a premium. The extra size might be doable, or it could easily be a dealbreaker for my use.

    What I was trying to get at was that after the excitement of near gear wore off when I went from iPad 4 to Air 2, there wasn't really a significant difference in what I could now do, or the pleasure I got from it. Some sure, but not enough to justify the hassle of buying new and selling my old one on craigslist.

    These days, I try to only buy when what I have no longer allows me to do what I want it to do, or Apple is about to make it obsolete via iOS upgrades, or it completely fails. The little bit of extra pleasure doesn't factor in it so much anymore. Mostly utility and practicality. To each their own though. :)

    I need to run some errands today. Maybe I'll go by and take a look at that 12.9in one and compare to my Air 2 in the store... just in case I see a sweet deal on a refurb that I have to act on quickly. I could use more room for video storage, but I'm also concerned about the claims that a lot of devs haven't updated their apps for Pro yet, and the upscale looks kinda funky for some.

  • Hey Skip, the Fat Bastard upscales just fine. Yes, some apps look "funky", but from the size increase, not because the quality of their graphics suffers. Auria Pro is just amazing in the FB.

  • @sch said:
    Hey Skip, the Fat Bastard upscales just fine. Yes, some apps look "funky", but from the size increase, not because the quality of their graphics suffers. Auria Pro is just amazing in the FB.

    "Fat Bastard" LOL :wink:

  • @skiphunt said:

    @sch said:
    Hey Skip, the Fat Bastard upscales just fine. Yes, some apps look "funky", but from the size increase, not because the quality of their graphics suffers. Auria Pro is just amazing in the FB.

    "Fat Bastard" LOL :wink:

    Sounds way better ;)

  • The article and video seemed like a bad translation. I take it all with a pinch of salt, I'm not changing my iPad Pro for a long while.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

    A ) It's all personal. The sheepdog you have is of no use to me, my lapdog looks silly to you etc etc.

    B ) Despite the foregoing there are leaps forward and there are money grabs. Perhaps, for your use, the 4 to Air didn't deliver enough difference (for you) despite the marketing (which is their job after all :). I can see that. For me, the leap from the Air1 to the Pro 12.9 was/is a huge and significant one. The Air1 was the best piece of technology -in terms of pleasure, use, creativity etc- that I had ever spent money on. The 12.9 now easily owns that title. For me.

    C) Not knocking the larger one. Haven't even played with one yet. Might change my tune. It's just as a photographer, visual person, I'm more drawn to the claims of the True-Tone display of the smaller Pro. And, I like to travel via motorcycle with mine, so space for camera stuff, electronics, etc. is at a premium. The extra size might be doable, or it could easily be a dealbreaker for my use.

    What I was trying to get at was that after the excitement of near gear wore off when I went from iPad 4 to Air 2, there wasn't really a significant difference in what I could now do, or the pleasure I got from it. Some sure, but not enough to justify the hassle of buying new and selling my old one on craigslist.

    These days, I try to only buy when what I have no longer allows me to do what I want it to do, or Apple is about to make it obsolete via iOS upgrades, or it completely fails. The little bit of extra pleasure doesn't factor in it so much anymore. Mostly utility and practicality. To each their own though. :)

    I need to run some errands today. Maybe I'll go by and take a look at that 12.9in one and compare to my Air 2 in the store... just in case I see a sweet deal on a refurb that I have to act on quickly. I could use more room for video storage, but I'm also concerned about the claims that a lot of devs haven't updated their apps for Pro yet, and the upscale looks kinda funky for some.

    I love the Fat Boy's size (or maybe the Big Bastard? Hey, compromise :)), but more than the lovely look once I got him in the dark it was the extra power that made the difference, very little freezing any more...

  • edited October 2016

    @jbvdb said:

    @lala said:
    Your desktop software?
    :#

    Yes, obviously! I don't understand some people's incredulity towards that concept! Bitwig and fl are already on board with it and it's a matter of time before others follow suite!
    iOS is constantly about workarounds, having to run apps in audiobus then AUM, then a DAW! Some apps not playing well with others etc!

    Because it's awful compared to the iOS experience
    Dedicated touch software for dedicated touch devices rules ;)
    That's what makes iOS so great ;)
    Not this we are having some afterthoughts crap
    There is nothing like that in the desktop world, it all comes from point and single click interaction

  • edited October 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

    A ) It's all personal. The sheepdog you have is of no use to me, my lapdog looks silly to you etc etc.

    B ) Despite the foregoing there are leaps forward and there are money grabs. Perhaps, for your use, the 4 to Air didn't deliver enough difference (for you) despite the marketing (which is their job after all :). I can see that. For me, the leap from the Air1 to the Pro 12.9 was/is a huge and significant one. The Air1 was the best piece of technology -in terms of pleasure, use, creativity etc- that I had ever spent money on. The 12.9 now easily owns that title. For me.

    C) Not knocking the larger one. Haven't even played with one yet. Might change my tune. It's just as a photographer, visual person, I'm more drawn to the claims of the True-Tone display of the smaller Pro. And, I like to travel via motorcycle with mine, so space for camera stuff, electronics, etc. is at a premium. The extra size might be doable, or it could easily be a dealbreaker for my use.

    What I was trying to get at was that after the excitement of near gear wore off when I went from iPad 4 to Air 2, there wasn't really a significant difference in what I could now do, or the pleasure I got from it. Some sure, but not enough to justify the hassle of buying new and selling my old one on craigslist.

    These days, I try to only buy when what I have no longer allows me to do what I want it to do, or Apple is about to make it obsolete via iOS upgrades, or it completely fails. The little bit of extra pleasure doesn't factor in it so much anymore. Mostly utility and practicality. To each their own though. :)

    I need to run some errands today. Maybe I'll go by and take a look at that 12.9in one and compare to my Air 2 in the store... just in case I see a sweet deal on a refurb that I have to act on quickly. I could use more room for video storage, but I'm also concerned about the claims that a lot of devs haven't updated their apps for Pro yet, and the upscale looks kinda funky for some.

    I love the Fat Boy's size (or maybe the Big Bastard? Hey, compromise :)), but more than the lovely look once I got him in the dark it was the extra power that made the difference, very little freezing any more...

    "Fat Boy" is a good compromise . There's the Fat Boy Harley's, and a giant beanbag chair company called Fat Boy. They're awesome. My sister has a couple. Could sleep a week melted into one.

    Hey, we could give it a hip hop spin and call it a Phat Boy yo!

    Still a warm place in my heart for Fat Bastard though. ;)

  • @skiphunt said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I tend to follow macrumors.com for rumor stuff. They tend to be fairly on the money with their predictions. And they make no mention at all about this "leak".

    Although the 10.5 in sounds like a size I'd be interested in, I seriously doubt it. Doesn't make sense. They already have well established production framework for the 9.7in size and I can't see them retooling for a completely different size altogether.

    Beefed up guts of what they already offer, true-tone display for the 12in, and maybe a mini-pro. That's all I bet it'll be.

    I'm still fine with my air 2 to be honest. Just need more space. Could likely just clean house a little and keep rockin in the free world on this one.

    I remember when I went from the iPad 4 to the air 2. I was so excited, but I had them both for a couple weeks until I sold the iPad 4. I compared them both in real use during that period, and honestly... I didn't find the differences all that earth shattering. Not even as a visual professional with the Retina display. Sure, it's better, but in actual use, you I could only see a marginal difference when they were side-by-side.

    I remember feeling after I unloaded the iPad 4 for chump change and paid my air 2 credit card bill... that I'd been a little suckered by marketing hype. ;)

    A ) It's all personal. The sheepdog you have is of no use to me, my lapdog looks silly to you etc etc.

    B ) Despite the foregoing there are leaps forward and there are money grabs. Perhaps, for your use, the 4 to Air didn't deliver enough difference (for you) despite the marketing (which is their job after all :). I can see that. For me, the leap from the Air1 to the Pro 12.9 was/is a huge and significant one. The Air1 was the best piece of technology -in terms of pleasure, use, creativity etc- that I had ever spent money on. The 12.9 now easily owns that title. For me.

    C) Not knocking the larger one. Haven't even played with one yet. Might change my tune. It's just as a photographer, visual person, I'm more drawn to the claims of the True-Tone display of the smaller Pro. And, I like to travel via motorcycle with mine, so space for camera stuff, electronics, etc. is at a premium. The extra size might be doable, or it could easily be a dealbreaker for my use.

    What I was trying to get at was that after the excitement of near gear wore off when I went from iPad 4 to Air 2, there wasn't really a significant difference in what I could now do, or the pleasure I got from it. Some sure, but not enough to justify the hassle of buying new and selling my old one on craigslist.

    These days, I try to only buy when what I have no longer allows me to do what I want it to do, or Apple is about to make it obsolete via iOS upgrades, or it completely fails. The little bit of extra pleasure doesn't factor in it so much anymore. Mostly utility and practicality. To each their own though. :)

    I need to run some errands today. Maybe I'll go by and take a look at that 12.9in one and compare to my Air 2 in the store... just in case I see a sweet deal on a refurb that I have to act on quickly. I could use more room for video storage, but I'm also concerned about the claims that a lot of devs haven't updated their apps for Pro yet, and the upscale looks kinda funky for some.

    I love the Fat Boy's size (or maybe the Big Bastard? Hey, compromise :)), but more than the lovely look once I got him in the dark it was the extra power that made the difference, very little freezing any more...

    "Fat Boy" is a good compromise . There's the Fat Boy Harley's, and a giant beanbag chair company called Fat Boy. They're awesome. My sister has a couple. Could sleep a week melted into one.

    Hey, we could give it a hip hop spin and call it a Phat Boy yo!

    Still a warm place in my heart for Fat Bastard though. ;)

  • edited October 2016

    Gotta love 'em :D

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