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piano roll editor : Auria Pro vs Cubasis
which one do you prefer and why?
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Cubasis, but the best for me are gadget And Auxy actually ...
I preferred Cubasis for a long time, but Auria has polished up the piano roll with each release. Now it's pretty much a wash to me. I prefer Cubasis' more traditional 'volume and cc editing in a separate section below' approach, but Auria's more 'inline' style (where the volume and other cc settings just look like automation nodes amongst the notes) works OK once you get used to it.
Outside of the piano roll itself, Auria Pro has far more in the way of MIDI editing functions, Things like randomise, fix lengths etc....
Yes Auria Pro is the most complete daw (sometimes too complexe for me ). @andyplankton Randomise piano roll notes you mean ? Wow great function , where can I access to it , I can't find it .
Edit: ok I got it
Ha. Look at that. Never tried it. Will do
As to the original post, and with no disrespect, I think they both work and suspect that this kind of question only brings out the polarization of opinion about what are two very good programs for iOS at this point. Yes, both piano rolls could certainly still improve, but much as I am in awe of what Rim has achieved and also appreciate the step forward Cubasis has recently taken, it struck me the other day that I don't need to choose (fortunately) and the truth is the iOS world would be less good without having BOTH here in our playground.
Hear, hear!
Neither. MTS for me. It offers piano roll, drum grid and score. The piano roll allows for accurate editing with minimal fuss. Easy to turn the grid snap on or off. Transpose and expand to chords is a cinch. Auria is still a better DAW overall for features, but midi is a bit fiddly at this point especially on the ipad mini.
Thanks for answering! What do you find fiddly?
Small screen space to work with due to the fact if you want to edit you need to enlarge quite a bit to get control. With MTS you can stay zoomed out and when you tap on a note to edit, separate handles will appear to move the note or alter it so it's easy to see the overall picture while editing individual notes without zooming in and out all the time. Auria has no drum grid which I find really useful for editing drums. Sometimes drum notes are spaced too wide on the piano roll making editing annoying whereas a drum editor will only show you the notes you are using making editing more efficient.
Is there an iOS app other than Auria that has "quantize strength"?
Prolly not surprising but I still most prefer the Nanostudio piano roll over the rest. In particular, I'm a big fan of the extra handles for moving and resizing notes or groups of notes instead of trying to do everything via pressing the note on the piano roll. It's usually a severely overloaded interaction (long press? double tap? tap the left side? right side? tap to delete? Wait, I wanted that!). Plus, you can't see the note in question when you're editing it because yer fat finger is in the way! Wish all piano rolls utilized the handles. Beatmaker seems to have been the only ones smart enough to rip it off.
Where is it?
MTS has it.
I agree this is very true in most cases, but if someone is debating which of the two to purchase, since there are no demo's available on iOS (and few videos that actually show midi editing in action), then soliciting advice is fine as long as everyone can constrain themselves.
Perhaps phrasing it as 'which piano roll features of the two (or three if you included MTS), do you find most useful, and what do they lack for you' might elicit more on-topic responses with less chance of triggering an app war?
Thanks! MTS remains my most wanted but it won't work for my set up. Need MIDI port and channel per track and MTS (at least last I checked) only allows channel per track.
Thanks for this Professor. Just spent a couple of hours watching The Debate and feel unclean and unhappy. Now, however, I am going to rinse myself off in celebration of the fact that this is about as much time possible before there's the next presidential debate and going back for a noodle on Nanostudio seems like a return to a simpler, better time etc
Auria is definitely a bigly of an app. Not a bad hombre amongst any of these either.
I see nobody's mentioned Sunvox yet.
I'm actually quite fond of the 'limited' piano-roll in GarageBand where the 'grid resolution' increases/decreases when zooming in & out and it remembers the last length and velocity of a note when drawing new notes and also has a neat 'auto-snap' feature. The realtime non-destructive quantise is pretty neat too
Too bad it doesn't have any kind of controller editing not even for pitch & mod-wheel even though they can be recorded...
In the parameters section, bottom left....Random1 and Random 2.
There is also the Humanize function available on the process menu for more controlled randomness
because its desktop ui junk?
just watched some short tuts on MTS - to me it seems more fiddly to do midi editing than in Auria Pro (i prefer a one finger approach - select and then use th same finger to drag to change notes)...
If Rim would add this ability to Auria Pro, it would really take it over the top for editing on the piano roll.
How difficult do you think it would be to program something like that?
As @Samu said, GarageBand's non-destructive quantize is hard to beat. Hope Rim add this to Auria Pro, because it's what is still missing for truly Desktop level MIDI editing...
AFAIK Auria already has non-destructive quantize:
The destructive quantize is in the process menu, but in the FX panel it's non-destructive.
Thank you so much, Richard! I thought the FX and the Process quantize were just two paths to the same destination. Really great!