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Smart on Ableton
Really smart move. Ableton is providing code for Ableton Live Set exporting to any iOS dev. I am prejudiced, of course, because I use Ableton Live myself, but I think they set an example for other organizations on how to really make the most of music making, in this case with iOS.
Apple, are you listening? Hello? Anyone there in Cupertino?
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Agreed, this is a big plus for Live users
Yes, they are doing a lot for mobile music. I wonder if Auria Pro and the other iOS daws will add this?
It would be superb though I would really want bi-directional compatibility.
Agreed. The initial set of apps are really well chosen IMO. All are great apps that create chains of cool clips. Perfect fodder for Live's session view. i wonder if they're tipping their hand about future directions. They seem to be going down the path of making ways for 3rd party devs to link into the mothership as opposed to creating tools like touch interfaces themselves.
Can it be assumed that they are setting the stage for a grand Ableton Live entry to iOS ?
No, I wouldn't assume that at all.
Man, that would be super cool tho. iPad Pro and push2 working together!
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It is super smart and it saves them from having to make a dumbed down version of Live for iOS in order to just have a presence which would likely just reduce their brand image and potentialy steal from Desktop sales. Just making an iOS version of Live would be like Porsche making a 15000$ dollar car. This way Ableton gets to have a strong presence and not dirty themselves with all of the iOS music problems/cheapo marketplace, just focusing on converting iOS users to desktop.
Musical Time and Transport... brought to you by Ableton, whose name shall be on your product from heretofore... or be unlinked, forced to jam in some proprietary vacuum.
Gotta believe this is a win for the ios music community. In the Venn diagram of Ableton users and ios musicians, I'm guessing that the Ableton/non-ios section is a pretty big number
Very smart. they're positioning themselves to be "the desktop daw" for taking mobile sketches elsewhere
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Ableton has always impressed me as one of the most sensible, if not the most sensible, developers in the game.
While we're on the topic, what's the deal with midi programming in Ableton? I've heard it kind of sucks and is more geared towards playing the patterns in live rather than piano rolling? Which is good in my book, just curious.
Hmm, the word "programming" gives me pause, but I find Ableton to be excellent for MIDI recording and editing.
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/editing-midi-notes-and-velocities
@AudioGus Agreed. No way that Live for iOS is happening anytime soon. This Link + Export gambit is perfect for them. The only apps I could see them making are some sort of Push editor and/or a way to leverage special features in Max for Live and get users to upgrade even further.
While we're on the subject— how hard would it be for these apps to also offer export in a format that can be opened in your average timeline-based DAW? Not like Cubasis > Cubase , with effects and automation carried over, but separate tracks/clips of flattened audio and timing intact. Are all these DAWs so proprietary that a generic package of some sort can't be devised? If multi-channel MIDI can do it, why not audio?
The Ableton Live pack just contains wave files, you don't NEED Live to use the exact same audio in another DAW. It's just all nicely packaged, organized, and simple to open if you do happen to use Live.
Oh, I know. Since I use DP pretty often, I'd just like it all layed out as tracks and clips, in time, rather than digging through files and recreating it. I could also just go into Live and record the loops out in the arrangement window, then export that out into another DAW. Never happen.
It's more of a general question about why this export option doesn't exist already, especially with apps that offer a song mode. Perhaps a competing linear DAW should consider offering their own easy to implement SDK and try and stem the bleeding from Live's clever innovation. The old DAWs are stuck in their ways, so I imagine this, too, will never happen.
I think you about summed it up