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OT: Human and Earth stuff

Have people heard of these guys before?
It's one of the best interviews I've seen (I think. My memory isn't that great). Too good not to post here.

Comments

  • What's it about? Can't watch currently

  • Very good and interesting, sad also..., but THANK YOU for posting!

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    @db909 said:
    What's it about? Can't watch currently

    Mostly the medical profession and money and how it is affecting humans and our planet.
    Couple of intelligent doctors discussing it though makes it interesting.

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    An interesting timeline ...

    http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/history_of_the_pharma_cartel.html

    The History of the Pharma-Cartel

    1911, May 15

    The Supreme Court of the U.S. finds John Rockefeller and his Trust guilty of corruption, illegal business practices and racketeering. As a result of this decision, the entire Rockefeller Standard Oil-Trust, the world's largest corporation of its time, was sentenced to be dismantled. But Rockefeller was already above the Supreme Court and did not care about this decision.

    1913

    In order to disperse public and political pressure on him and other robber-barons, Rockefeller uses a trick called "philanthropy", whereby the illegal gains from his robber-practices in the oil business are used to launch the Rockefeller Foundation. This tax haven was used to strategically take over the health care sector in the U.S..

    The Rockefeller Foundation was the front organization for a new global business venture of Rockefeller and his accomplices. This new venture was called the pharmaceutical investment business. Donations from the Rockefeller Foundation went only to medical schools and hospitals. These institutions had become missionaries of a new breed of companies: the manufacturers of patented, synthetic drugs.

    This was also the time when the first vitamins were discovered. It soon became clear however that these natural molecules had live-saving health benefits and that they were able to prevent many chronic health conditions. The first books appeared with research, subsequently abandoned, about the health benefits of vitamins. These newly discovered molecules had only one disadvantage: they were non-patentable.

    Thus, in its first years of existence, the pharmaceutical investment business already faced a mortal thread: vitamins and other micronutrients promoted as public health programs would prohibit the development of any sizable investment business based on patented drugs. The elimination of this unwanted competition from natural micronutrients therefore became a question of life and death for the pharmaceutical business.

    1918

    The Rockefeller Foundation uses the Spanish flu epidemic – and the media (that it already controlled by this time) – to start a witch-hunt on all forms of medicine that were not covered by its patents.

    Within the next 15 years, all medical schools in the U.S., most hospitals and the American Medical Association all essentially became pawns on the chessboard of Rockefeller's strategy to subjugate the entire health care sector under the monopoly of his pharmaceutical investment business.

    Disguised as a "Mother Theresa", the Rockefeller Foundation was also used to conquer foreign countries and entire continents for the pharmaceutical investment business – just as Rockefeller himself had done a few decades previously with his petrochemical investment business.

    1925

    On the other side of the Atlantic, in Germany, the first chemical / pharmaceutical cartel is founded in order to compete with Rockefeller's quest for control of the global drug market. Lead by the German multinationals Bayer, BASF and Hoechst, the I.G. Farben cartel was founded with a total number of employees surpassing 80,000. The race for global control was on.

    1929, November 29

    The Rockefeller cartel (U.S.A.) and the I.G. Farben cartel (Germany) decided to divide the entire globe into interest spheres – the very same crime Rockefeller had been sentenced for 18 years earlier, when his trust had divided up the U.S. into "interest zones".

    1932 / 33

    The I.G. Farben cartel, equally insatiable, decides no longer to be bound by the 1929 constraints. They support an uprising German politician, who promises I.G. Farben to militarily conquer the world for them. With millions of dollars in election campaign donations, this politician seized power in Germany, turned the German democracy into a dictatorship and kept his promise to launch his conquest war, a war that soon became known as WWII.

    In each and every country Hitler's wehrmacht invaded, the first act was to rob the chemical, petrochemical and pharmaceutical industries and assign them – free of charge – to the I.G. Farben empire.

    1942 - 45

    In order to cement its global leadership with patented drugs, the I.G. Farben cartel tests its patented pharmaceutical substances on concentration camp inmates in Auschwitz, Dachau and many other sites. The fees for conducting these inhumane studies were transferred directly from the bank accounts of Bayer, Hoechst and BASF to the bank accounts of the SS, who operated the concentration camps.

    1945

    I.G. Farben's plan to take control of the global oil and drug markets has failed. The U.S. and the other allied forces won WWII. Nevertheless, many U.S. and allied soldiers had lost their lives during the conflict, and the allies' reward was little compared to the rewards of others. The corporate shares of the losers, I.G. Farben, went to the Rockefeller trust (U.S.A.) and Rothschild / J.P. Morgan (U.K.).

    1947

    In the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal, 24 managers from Bayer, BASF, Hoechst and other executives of the I.G. Farben cartel were tried for crimes against humanity. These crimes included: leading wars of aggression, instituting slavery and committing mass murder. In his final pleading, U.S.-Chief Prosecutor Telford Taylor summarized the crimes committed by these corporate criminals with the following words: "Without I.G. Farben, the second World War would not have been possible".

    Amazingly, the real culprits for the death of 60 Million people in World War II – the I.G. Farben executives – received the mildest verdicts. Even those executives directly responsible for the crimes in I.G. Auschwitz only received a maximum of twelve years in jail. Surprised? You shouldn't be.

    By 1944 Nelson Rockefeller had already entered the executive branch of the U.S. government. He started off as Under-Secretary of State and ended up a few years later as Special Adviser of President Truman for Special Affairs. In other words, at critical junctures of the 20th century, the Rockefeller interests took direct charge. They decided the post war shape of the world and the distribution of its wealth.

    As such, under the influence of the U.S. State Department, the verdicts in Nuremberg against the I.G. Farben managers can easily be explained. In return for taking over the corporate shares of I.G. Farben, and thereby global control of the oil and drug business, Nelson Rockefeller made sure that the real culprits of World War II were not hanged. In fact, and as we shall see, they were needed.

    1949

    The Federal Republic of Germany was founded. This was the first time in history that the constitution and society of an industrialized nation could be planned and modeled as a fortress of the pharmaceutical investment business – a transatlantic outpost of the Rockefeller interests.

    Within only a few years, the I.G. Farben managers sentenced in Nuremberg were released from jail and put back into their previous positions as stakeholders of the Rockefeller interests. Fritz Ter Meer, for example, sentenced to twelve years in jail for his crimes in Auschwitz, was back as chairman of the board of Germany's largest pharmaceutical multinational, Bayer, by 1963!

    1945 - 49

    The role of the Rockefeller brothers was not limited to their taking over the global monopolies of the oil and drug businesses. They also needed to create the political framework for these businesses to thrive. Under their influence, therefore, the United Nations was founded in 1945, in San Francisco. To seize political control of the post war world, three countries – leading drug export nations – had all the say, and 200 other nations were rendered mere spectators.

    Founded as organizations to allegedly serve the wellbeing of the people of the world, the UN's subsidiary organizations, such as the World Health Organization (WHO) and World Trade Organization (WTO), soon turned out to be nothing more than the political arms of the global oil and drug interests.

    1963

    On behalf of the Rockefeller interests, the government of the pharmaceutical banana republic Germany spearheaded one of the most infamous efforts ever made within the United Nations. Under the pretense of consumer protection, it launched a four-decade-long crusade to outlaw vitamin therapies and other natural, non-patentable health approaches in all member countries of the United Nations. The goal was to simply ban any and all competition for the multi-billion dollar business with patented drugs. The plan was simple: copy for the entire world what had already been accomplished in America in the 1920s – a monopoly on health care for the investment business with patented drugs.

    Since the marketplace for the pharmaceutical investment business depends upon the continued existence of diseases, the drugs it developed were not intended to prevent, cure or eradicate disease. Thus, the goal of the global strategy was to monopolize health for billions of people, with pills that nearly cover symptoms but hardly ever address the root cause of disease. The deprivation of billions of people from having access to life saving information about the health benefits of natural health approaches, whilst at the same time establishing a monopoly with largely ineffective and frequently toxic patented drugs, caused disease and death in genocidal proportions.

    This epidemic of unnecessary disability and death by the pharmaceutical business with disease is unparalleled in history.

    Linus Pauling and other eminent scientists deserve credit for having kept open the door of knowledge about the health benefits of vitamins and other effective natural health approaches. If it were not for them we would already be living in a health prison today, guarded by the gatekeepers of the pharmaceutical business with disease in medicine, politics and the media.

    Linus Pauling should also be credited for having identified the significance of Dr. Rath's early research in vitamins and cardiovascular disease, and for having invited Dr. Rath to join him during his last years to continue his life's work.

    1990 - 92

    These years will go down in history as the beginning of the end of the pharmaceutical business with disease. In a series of scientific publications, in some of which Dr. Rath invited Linus Pauling to join him as co-author, Dr. Rath identified micronutrient deficiency as the primary cause of diseases. These diseases include heart attacks, high blood pressure, diabetic circulatory problems, cancer and even immune deficiency diseases, including AIDS.

    Like a Sherlock Holmes of science, Dr. Rath traced the real cause of these diseases, and found that they had been deliberately nebulized or even hidden away from millions of people for one purpose only: to feed the insatiable greed of the pharmaceutical business with disease.

  • imho there's nothing more corrupt than 'the people' because the people could put an end to all the problems we face as a people but we are complacent and therefore complicit in our own demise and the demise of others. We'd rather blame politics, a corporation, or even the media when in actuality whatever the problem is it's the fault of another person, another one of us, and therefore our fault.

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    @kobamoto
    "You do it to yourself you do, and that's what really hurts". Like radiohead says it?

    At my age now I like nothing more than truth and I respect no one more than people like these who don't sway from it in the middle of all the corruption, lies, and dirty money thrown around.
    These 2 guys just happen to be dealing with something that affects our population and planet like no other(that I know of).
    And this Dr. McDougall has a great way of communicating I find. I've watched a couple more of his talks, interviews and it's a breath of fresh(clean) air. Especially after subjecting myself to the latest US candidate debates.

  • @Redo1 said:

    Especially after subjecting myself to the latest US candidate debates.

    No doubt. the 64 thousand dollar question though has got to be which way would change the world the quickest and in the best way?

    A. Half the world go out and try to change the other half.

    B. Half the world just change itself (and benefit from whatever change that creates in the other half through osmosis)

    C. Half the world change itself, and then go out and try to force change on the other half.

    D. Just let the earth brush its shoulders off

    Because we are living in an age where the truth doesn't matter much and facts are eschewed for the sake of whims.

  • @Paul16

    A very interesting timeline, james corbett has done a few good documentaries covering similar ground. Been watching a few things lately that tie into similar topics, is a shame to see such indifference, not just to people but everything else on the planet as well, even though I have a basic understanding of personality disorders, seeing the damage that's been caused is something I still have trouble getting my head around.

    @Redo1

    Thanks for posting it up I'll watch it fully tomorrow night, good to see people in the profession speak out, not so easy to dismiss, I hope future generations laugh at us for being such lemmings and aren't trapped in a central control grid, where their memories and will are wiped, replaced and they're taught how great we were for assuming the postition.

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    I'm listening to a radio show now about moving to Mars. And establishing property rights.
    Mars! if you can read this,.......run!

    Thanks for that timeline @Paul16 Haven't seen that before.

  • great sample fodder as well

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    @kobamoto said:
    great sample fodder as well

    Didn't think of that.
    "We will never be able to synthesize a pill..that replaces a potato"

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