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Egoist vs similar apps
Is this the best sample manipulator app? What else compares?
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Check out sector as well as samplr
Werkbench too
So many different ways to manipulate samples. What are you trying to do?
I think it's the pussy's pajamas.
I love it! sending to and from Blocs is the best, but then again I say that about most things these days.
what kind of manipulation are you interested in?
@kobamoto @ecamburn
Hi all. I was looking for an app to do Aphex style glitching.
Sector.
+1
Well why didn't you say aphex twin?.....
(By aphex you mean aphex twin yes?)
Sector
Maybe samplr
OK. Cheers. It looked a bit confusing an non linear to me, but it certainly is a cheaper option, so I'll look into it.
Cheers. Samplr doesn't seem to have been updated in years however.
Elastic Drums latest sample update has been yielding great glitch results. heck I think Egoist does too. The key to Egoist in my mind is all in what you feed it. I like to put in long wav files made of many stacked up samples. Sometimes i will feed an egoist recording with fx back into it and stack up fx again on top.
You might check out Elsa and GlitchBreaks. And then check out those two developers other apps while you're at it.
Think it also depends how much work you're willing to put in. Mr. James did a lot of his best stuff with very rudimentary samplers and three metric shit tons of programming. Clever as he was(is!) he was at least as tenacious, if not more so. If you want a multitrack sampler friendly linear "full song" creation environment and are willing to forego glitch shortcuts, checkout BeatMaker 2 and Nanostudio. For this sorta stuff anyway, BM has the advantages of IAA instrument hosting and MIDI out. Nanostudio has a much more aphex friendly sampler via Eden, better effects and super easy resampling (key to his early work).
@AudioGus Yes. Elastic Drums seems great for drum glitch. I want to be able to do more than drums which is why I was looking at Egoist.
@syrupcore Indeed! Mr James is a genius. I'm happy to take some shortcuts however.
Nanostudio sounds interesting though I gather it hasn't been updated in ages.
In addition to iOS tools mentioned you might look at turnado. I like the results from playing turnado's xy grids. I'd also second @syrupcore's suggestion to get your hands dirty with direct editing methods. Not recommending you buy Ableton but here's an example of glitching through direct editing of audio.
It has a sample importer now that i find works awesome for synths and voice.
Good call. I have most sugarbytes apps. I really need to learn them better. To be honest I could do it all in MTS or Auria, but one is always on the outlook for an excuse to buy yet another app.
Cool. Maybe I'll pick up that IAP afterall.
Neither has the Akai S-950 (his main weapon iirc), Roland Jupiter 8, Korg Mono/Poly, MPC 2000, Fender Stratocaster, MiniMoog... NS still works perfectly. And then some. Definitely long in the tooth in some ways compared to newer apps but yeah, so is the TR-808 compared to newer drum machines.
I'd wager RDJ would have shit himself on live TV for access to NanoStudio in 1995.
You can automate (and mess with in real time via the XY pads) sample start and sample (loop) length with Nanostudio. For precision sample manipulation, it can be impossible/frustrating. For glitching, it's magic. It doesn't have micro-tuning as a native feature but it's easy to set an XY pad or an envelope to something like sample pitch. Go nuts. It forces a minimum of 1 bar per piano roll clip but if you're determined you're welcome to ignore it. All of the sequencers RDJ used back in the day forced the same. Dude was just creative and diligent!
does nano truncate audio destructively, and import via iTunes music library?
thanks for posting this. I forgot all about Egoist, and revisited it last night. I forgot how great this app is!! i'm gonna have to bring it into my "go-to" apps when i click on my ipad.
So many answers - so little time.
Grades on these type of apps I own
Egoist A
Samplr A
Sector A-
Triggler A- (universal-gr8 for performance and quick edits)
Yellowfied A- (universal)
I actually think Glitch Breaks almost fits the bill if you use it a particular way. Just my opinion.
ALL OF THESE ARE GREAT. EACH HAVE PROS and CONS. I USE AT LEAST 2 of THEM DAILY.
Easy A in your class!
Even without IAP sample import, it's possible to shape all kinds of melodic lines with its performance style automations of onboard patches/samples. Someone here put it well: knobs knobs knobs
I just wanna give Egoist some love for that sweet sweet master tune. I was only going to use it as a sample manipulator and now I find I have another bass synth and drum machine to putz with!
Something I started messing with lately is controlling Egoist as an IAA from a DAW (Cubasis). If you have Egoist set to piano keys (bottom left button on the Slicer page) you can trigger slices from keys C-3 and set the pattern with the C-1 keys. If you toggle that button off in Egoist, then the C-1 keys in Cubasis play the patterns, parts or song, depending on how you have that set.
Rather than having to write out a whole song in Egoist, you can just make a mess of patterns in Egoist and trigger as needed from the DAW, making the composition process more liquid. This is how the VST works, so I don't know why I didn't do it sooner.
Plus, the effects can be automated externally. Need to revisit that part, though.