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How do you set 3 knobs to zero at the same time?
Knob, fader,
Everything behaves like a fader
Touch "knob"move finger like you would with a fader up and down.
So what's the difference?
Touching a virtual knob like a knob makes no sense to me.
(For envelopes looking at faders is nice cause you can tell what's going on)
As long as the knobs have vertical touch, the same as you would with three faders.
[edit: unless the faders have a single touch to move them to a particular point. Then, you have a point, but also lots of potential to accidentally jump to unwanted values]
I agree with this fully. Imagined once I saw the Thor solution the problem was solved, but has not yet become a default choice....
^This. Totally.
Multitrack DAW has a nice control zoom on touch too.
I like it when there's several vertical slider behaving things side by side and you can drag your finger across all of them horizontally to set the values with one stroke. It be awesome if someone made a synth that was programmable in this fashion. With automation recording of the same. The key would be smooth animation and accuracy and the ability to adjust a single slider accurately if one chooses
An fm synth would be well suited for this with several carriers and modulators. You would AS ALWAYS, need a "reset to default position" function.
The pitch sliders on Lexington are really bloody annoying. If you touch them by accident the thing goes wildly out of tune and it's almost impossible to set them back to zero.
If you do that while live while tweaking some other slider (that's just next to it) it ruins the whole track. It's very hard to get it back to zero.
ADSRs are a close second though they're not really a 1:1 like a graphic EQ since some are adjusting time while others are adjusting level.
Without a doubt, it's much easier to glance at my SH-101 and know the state of the synth than it is with something like a meeblip or bass station. The Minibrute uses high contrast indicators on the knobs which helps but not as fast (for me) as rows of similar length sliders.
Yeah, that's good living. Nanostudio has the tap and drag for all numeric, text field and select field values (no slider or knob needed) like waveform, transpose, patchbay amounts... but it doesn't have the double-tap to enter a value. PPG apps are like this if I recall correctly.
Been thinking more about hardware knobs vs sliders and I realize that knobs definitely win for me if there is a 'center' value. And, in software or hardware, like @supadom said, space counts. I can't image how enormous my mixer would be if it was all sliders!> @AndyPlankton said:
Why, despite touch screen technology are we still twiddling with knobs? We must be sentimental.
Way ahead of its time. Put that helix on a touch screen and let the values adjust as you drag up and down, boom! (It did rotate as you scrolled down the page, but you couldn't hold the mouse down and affect more than one parameter)
I like this
Exactly, i had a kaoss pad on my korg z1 in 1998 and now i'm twisting a displayed knob with a finger.
New technology; old paradigm. Surely the touch screen offers more than a poor emulation of a hardware interface.
Well, this is true of the real things - the Odyssey and 2600 sliders are just free-running and you have to tune manually by ear and get the position accurate by hand. If you move them in performance, everything's different of course, but you'd have to be lucky to get them back to where they were again quickly.
Well done Korg, soooo true to the original. I'm sure the original odyssey aficionados would be really pissed of if the pitch slider had a zero notch
It seems like a no-brainer to me, that any decent synth designed for a small screen, would have an option that whenever you touched a knob, it would turn into a slider, taking over the whole screen, so you could edit precisely. I think bitwig for the surface pro makes good use of these ergonomic choices, but I've only seen videos. I'm actually quite tempted to buy a surface pro just for it.
Ironically, on an iPhone the sliders on Lexington are actually bigger in portrait mode than in landscape.
So I've been practicing using it like that and staying the hell away from those pitch sliders (until Korg sorts out a double tap to reset to zero).
Oddly while programming it kind of reminded me of the old days when zero for pitch forever changed with the room and gear temperature
May be worse than people think. The scale possible by each slider can be changed by certain actions.
Start off with the Init patch. Say I have my Fine slider at 0.00. You can slide it up or down in incremental amounts only. The next step being 3.10 when moving up. Now take the slider all the way up to 400 cents. Now take the slider down to try to reach zero again.
Can't do it! The slider will now not reach zero as the increments go from 2.20 straight to -0.90. The same 3.10 increment, but now out of sync with the original increments!
Just to add. I'm using the stand alone app. Will see if Lex is the same.
Nope. Lex is ok, it's just the stand alone app.
It's simple (I'm not reading the whole thread) knobs make no sense on a touchscreen.
Thanks for settling that one! Wish you'd have jumped in earlier and saved us all that time discussing it.
Thread closed...
Certainly in Gadget, you can 'flick' the control and it will start moving in more friendly increments (ie round 10s). The problem with the pitch sliders, though, is the range is still 400 (so 40 increments).
The other big problem is I find I start flicking it towards zero and all is going well until I'm about 3 flicks away - then boom - it doesn't register my flick and flies the slider way off again. So I have to start again. Bloody annoying. And not great sounding during a performance
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Yes. And not reading the whole thread?!! What else do you have to do?
Damn.
Damn.
Your welcome.