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The What We're Not Good At Group

Welcome to Group. You can say what you like in Group as long as you're honest. Group will not respond. Group will not judge you, nor will it tell you that despite your wooden leg you might yet be the fastest runner in the room. Group is the deaf ear to talk into. To say clearly what you need to be better at in the hope of seeing your problem more clearly. Welcome to Group.

Hello, my name's Johnny and I'm an Incompleter.

I can write words down all day, make them rhyme if I feel like it, spin them around and whip them up. Nothing to worry about. Words are my legions, they mostly do my bidding.

Music, well music I have two ears for. I like what I hear. And I can make noise that I like.

So far, so good. I have words, I have music, I don't worry about production, there's always someone else talented at the engineering of it all if that's required. The problem is writing words specifically for music (or vice versa). Working on the melody and making it something more than just what I'm feeling at the moment.

More specifically, I feel I should be approaching song-writing more intellectually, I should be wringing the thing's neck, putting every piece and speck exactly where it needs to go and nothing else. But that's not how it happens and, I confess, the idea of the real work, the hard work, keeps me incompleting, and far, far short of what I feel I could be/should be producing.

Thank you.

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  • Im Bat and I'm a dial tweaker. Experience has taught me that I should spend more of the wee hours making actual notes, or even sequences of said notes, yet here I am, day after day tweaking dials and making sounds....not notes...

  • edited June 2017

    Hello, Group. I've been working on writing the new AudioKit open-source iPad synth since January. And, it's still not done. What's taking so long? I need to finish it.

  • I... I don't know what I am, or what my REAL problem is... I have bullshit bumperstickers I prop up in front of me to hide any real personal insight... I fear humiliation and being discarded as 'not getting it'. :<

  • Love this.

    I am a crappy composer. I create bits and fragments of choruses, with words I hum along in my head. I like them, sometimes adore them. But I realize they are incomplete creations that while resembling fully defined children or pets to me, always resolve into vague, shifting, blurry ghost-like shapes to others trying to bring them into focus.

    I also like wine and metaphors, to a fault. ;)

  • edited November 2016

    Good thread,

    I'm not good at:

    Drum programming - Everything used to be far too busy, but I've improved (I think !).

    Song writing - can't write a song to save my life. I tried once and gave up, I'm much more interested in more abstract composition.

    Repetition - Something I have to guard against quite a lot, one of the reasons I don't play the guitar so much now is that I tend to repeat stuff from aeons ago. Playing a different instrument helps with this though, I'm currently learning lots of new things on the fretless bass.

    Regular timing - Having grown up listening to a lot of Bob Fripp and other more left field guitarists, I (still) find it hard to play in regular timing. I always want to do some mad accents and the like. 'Flowing' is not my style at all. Maybe this accounts for my somewhat 'angular' Formbank stuff.

    Lastly, I used to pretty bad with mixing / producing, but over time I've improved considerably - some things can get better simply by applying oneself (over years).

  • I finally got decent at being able to get into a groove...but I'm stuck there! I suck at transitioning. Verse, chorus, intro, bridge...where are you hiding??

  • :s err, here we go

    Hello Group

    I am not good at

    Singing, so therefore I do not attempt to write songs, I just make tunes with no meaning.
    Melodies, probably related to the above, I get the odd snippet of a melody when i am noodling, but I always tend to concentrate on the groove, and boy do i repeat that groove.
    Keeping quiet - if I have an opinion I will voice it
    Confrontation - I hate it

    Group, please be aware that I will be back, I have many more things I am not good at.

  • edited November 2016

    STARTING I have these grandiose ideas that I just don't start. And I mean, Grand. They will be amazing. But since I don't start I never have material to finish, and I will never know how good they could really be. I have at least three big music projects that I simply haven't started.

  • Hello Group..... My name is Darren. I'm a Londoner, now living in Cyprus. I'm can't sing either. I love making all kinds of music. But mainly, House & Reggae Dub. I also love destroying & abusing other people's music as much as possible............. Ah!........ Ummmm..... What I mean is Remixing & making as much Madness in a Musical production as chaotic as possible......... If it's possible?........ I can't stand bullies, or people who think they know it all. We are all here on this Earth to learn & enjoy the time we have here on this Little Rock. Love to share music & ideas with people. Ummmmmmm..... Thats it for now...... :)

  • I'm not good at ignoring bugs in apps that steal away my focus.

    And I'm a lousy musician, i can get a 1-16 bar loops going with lots of stuff happening but arranging them into full pieces is something I'm nearly unable to do.

    Oh, yeah, and I don't read traditional notes at all being 'damaged' by Tracker-Style notation...

  • I like cheddar cheese & apple slices on crackers. Everything's better with nibbles.

  • Hello, I have a problem with patience/not giving apps a proper chance to get to know them. As such, ids-10 and I have had a contentious relationship from the go. We had a great talk last night though, and the future is looking bright.

  • edited November 2016

    Gadget. One of the best music apps ever invented. I'll get a really good first couple of sections going, then the third goes a bit....erm.....and I give up before it's finished. I've got a big folder full of cracking half-finished Gadget tunes that will never be completed.

  • edited November 2016

    Mediocrity. When all the awesome things are just a reminder that you are not.

    [technically this is something I'm good at, but whatevs]

  • ...avoiding this forum so that I have more time to make music at the end of the day.

  • Hello I am Daath7 and I am bad at completing songs, I have a lot of good starts for songs but then they turn into confusion. I think my problem has to do with commitment, and seeing the possibilities that each start can be. Since I don't sing or rap then I tend to over complicate the song which leaves me having to become an orchestrator to finish something! Also not being around musicians doesn't help either! One more thing not accepting my talents as worthy causes me to underestimate my talent and not finish these songs! And another one more thing is, the technology that is available today causes me to spend more time learning my equipment than creating! Ok that's it!

  • Actually, you may as well know, I don't think there's anything at all that I'm not good at.

  • @u0421793 said:
    Actually, you may as well know, I don't think there's anything at all that I'm not good at.

    Thank you for sharing. This is the most acute problem I have ever seen here in Group and I admire your willingness to be so open about your situation. There may be little hope for you, but surely others will benefit from your confession...

  • Hi group. I am no good at patience. As applied here, that means if I can't quickly figure out how something works, instead of taking the time necessary to figure it out, I just don't mess with it anymore. This has led me to all but give up on this thing all y'all rave about all the time called "MIDI" or something.

  • Good evening group. Good evening Father Goodyear. I am Bluepunk and I'm a drug addict. I am no good at saying no. This week I snorte....... Sorry, wrong room.

    I am no good at using one app to drive another. I am petrified of any "Settings" button and a completely useless tw@t at everything else....full stop.

  • Small town, big dreams.
    Empathetic, not what it seems,
    I need to live today.

    Bright lights, big city.
    Catastrophic, it wan't pretty.
    I need to make may way.

    Long nights, short life.
    Morning day, turns to night,
    I now pay for all the play.

    Lost years, big fun.
    Isolated, I am the one.
    I need to live today.

    Today is the scar of yesterday.
    Time never goes away.
    Today is the scar of yesterday.
    Live for today.

    RUST(i)K

  • Jack of all trades, master of none.

    Although autocorrect had it that I was master of nine, which would have been so much better.

  • edited November 2016

    I'm no good at being prolific. I have proven that I can complete songs. I've released a couple EPs and only several singles on SC. All this over a 15 year span. This has caused me to become a closet musician over the years. I was getting embarrassed when people would ask about what I've been making, cause my excuse was always "I'm experimenting, trouble-shooting and finalizing a new work-flow which suits me better...soon I'll be ready." All of this is true, but soon has been a couple years now.

  • I care too much - I struggle to accept I'm in my forties and not a rock star. And I detest schmoozing - which is an essential part, matched with perseverance and good timing, of becoming a rock star. Great thread, BTW :smile:

    "Sore, from head to toe ..."

  • I'm not good at resisting the urge to put animated gifs in threads.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Actually, you may as well know, I don't think there's anything at all that I'm not good at.

    Thank you for sharing. This is the most acute problem I have ever seen here in Group and I admire your willingness to be so open about your situation. There may be little hope for you, but surely others will benefit from your confession...

    Perhaps you should start a thread about 'things I'm really good at' :)

  • @Igneous1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Actually, you may as well know, I don't think there's anything at all that I'm not good at.

    Thank you for sharing. This is the most acute problem I have ever seen here in Group and I admire your willingness to be so open about your situation. There may be little hope for you, but surely others will benefit from your confession...

    Perhaps you should start a thread about 'things I'm really good at' :)

    Oh no, I'm too modest to do that.

  • @aaronpc said:
    ...avoiding this forum so that I have more time to make music at the end of the day.

    Same here. I spend too much time here and on other forums. There's always a compulsion to find out about new apps, hardware, and software to trigger more G.A.S.
    It's a vicious cycle. lol

  • Great discussion, not joining it would be a foolish decision! :)

    Hey All,
    My name is Gabor and I'm not good at predictability and mainstream. In other words, while I probably possess the skills to write comercially viable songs (not being modest about things I think I can do is what I'm pretty good at :smile: ), I'll never get myself actually to do that. So I end up rolling out experimental/psychedelic/noise tunes and maintain a never growing fanbase. :smile: And to make it all worse, I'm less and less good at trying to get my music to the right audience.

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