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Looking for help on iOS or PC: Best audio loop creator?
I am thanking you all in advance for the help.
I have hit a point where my internet research is spinning in circles. I know you guys could help. I have a lot of apps on iOS (so I may already have a solution) and just picked up Bitwig for my laptop. Here's my dilemma:
I want to take all my hard work on my Korg ES1 and record my loops into my iPad or my PC. There are about 300+ loops on several cards, and I plan to record the audio through my interface. FYI: there is no way to take Electribe files directly from the card that I know of. The files will probably end up in Blocs and Egoist and Samplr.
I could use Audioshare, but it can be pretty tedious zooming in on endpoints. I want to know if there is something you prefer that is a looping dream: trimming and truncate, organizing and renaming, etc. on PC or iOS. Autotrigger would be great. Most of all, SLICING into different samples would be amazing! I really just want to hear your opinions... and since I now have a complete DAW, maybe something standalone would be great for organizing all my samples. I just can't buy another DAW. So I look forward to your ideas!
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Blocs wave sounds like a good choice for recording those loops. Especially if they end up on the app anyways.
When i think of doing 300 of anything, I definitely think desktop. Full file system for organizing and renaming, keyboard shortcuts, batch processing...
The tricky part with doing something like 300 efficiently is going to be managing tempos. In most any desktop DAW you could record a track with a bunch of loops at the same tempo. As long as the downbeat is lined up with the DAWs tempo (via midi sync recording or manually move the first hit to the 1:1:0 position) you can then use the built in keyboard shortcut to move forward a measure and then the shortcut to slice at playhead. Makes quick work of this sort of stuff. Presuming your loops aren't all the same tempo, you can insert tempo changes into the DAW and still use the 'next measure' shortcut. If your tempos are all over the place, you might save some time in the end by coming up with an import plan that organizes the loops by tempo. You might also decide that fudging the default tempo a couple of BPM to make this all quicker is a worthwhile trade off.
Instead of tempo changes, you could also import each set of loops with the same tempos to a different track. Then, adjust the project tempo as needed to use the next measure shortcuts as you work on slicing each track. One big possible benefit of this method is that if you name the track "131bpm" before recording to it, most DAWs will export the slices as something like "131bpm Slice 1" so you'll already have the base bpm in the wav file name which will make life easier down the road.
Not sure about Bitwig but Reaper definitely supports this sort of workflow. Also has functions ala 'export all slices as wav files' so that once you're finished you can grab them all at once. They have a 30 day free trial and then a very inexpensive non-commercial license if you decide to stick with it. Bitwig probably has this sort of stuff too, being heavily loop based—I've just never used it so I dunno.
I will select the files I really use and trash the rest. More or less it's what I've done.
Then uploaded to dropbox and NAS to make the accesible for iPad.
Finally I'm recording new material (and purchasing blocs libraries which are great) and composing new material fast and forgetting about old and slow workflows.
I'm enjoying music like my first years and I must to share this lifting process as possible weight drop for anyone interested...
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Couple of ways I go about it as I also hate having to go in afterwards and fix start/end points.
On iOS I use either Zoom's HandyRecorder:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/handyrecorder/id566291779?mt=8
It has threshold recording so it starts when you start the loop so you don't have to set the start point. I then take it into some other app or desktop app and just set the bars and bpm so that it is easy to chop the endpoint perfectly. The problem is that the Zoom app only allows you to share via itunes or via email.
Master Record and Audio Mastering by iMusicAlbum both have threshold recording, and you can edit the start/end points, but I don't think they have bpm bars to make it easy to clip the end point.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/master-record-tape-simulation/id662532945?mt=8
For hardware I haven't found anything that beats my Korg microSAMPLER. You can set it up to record the exact length of the loop with bmp and it has threshold recording. You just set it up and start playing your loop and it will record it perfectly without having to set start/end points. You can then hook it up to your computer and copy the loops off that it recorded.
Just some thoughts.
So good!
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Sorry for the OT thread stuff but dubby folks might enjoy this guy's videos. He records the tracks and then does videos of him dubbing them out live:
Tons more here: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBakeryStudio/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=4