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Which Korg Synth?

edited November 2016 in General App Discussion

Somehow I've never bought a Korg synth, which given that I own most of the decent synths going on the iPad is a bit surprising. If you could buy just one, would you buy?

I like programming synths, modular doesn't phase me, good MIDI is a must. And I want something different to the good analog modellers I currently have (Model-15, VCS-3, Poison, Magellan, iSEM).

Thoughts?

If you can only buy one Korg Synth
  1. Which would you buy first?53 votes
    1. IMS-20
      15.09%
    2. iPolySix
        0.00%
    3. Arp Odyssei
      84.91%
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Comments

  • I really like iM1, it's really good. Sooo many patches/presets, IAP's are very reasonable, and give you quite a bit more.

    I bought gadget too, a while back. I could never figure out why I hadn't bought it sooner.

  • Yeah. Start with gadget. Arp ODYSSEi if you arr on the fence

  • iM1 seconded. ODYSSEi is great too.

  • I like programming synths, modular doesn't phase me, good MIDI is a must.

    If programming is the fun part, I'm not sure iM1 fits the bill all that well. Though it is the most different from the other VAs you mentioned.

    "Good MIDI" might be a problem. Korg synth apps listen on all MIDI ports on fixed MIDI channels. iMS-20 and iPolysix take up channels 1-7 and 1-8 respectively.

  • I agree with the rest here. Go for iM1 or Gadget first. The others you list have specific areas they excel, but with what you have, I can see iM1 being the better fit.

  • Funny thing is here. For the votes, Oddy has a distinct advantage being the newest iOS Korg synth

  • edited November 2016

    What non-VA synths do you have? Phasemaker, Nave, Phase84, icegear apps and PPG apps spring to mind as synths with good programming and good non-VA sounds.

    If you really want a Korg synth specifically for some reason, maybe wait for iWavestation? Deep programming, distinctly different sonically from your listed VAs.

  • All 3 are great, but only one works in Gadget.

  • iMS-20, if I were restricted to only one of the Korgis.

  • If good MIDI is a must you'll have a hard time finding a a suitable Korg synth for IOS. It's really a mystery to me, that they are able to produce such great synth's with so poor MIDI implementation. Very sad indeed.

  • @syrupcore said:
    What non-VA synths do you have? Phasemaker, Nave, Phase84, icegear apps and PPG apps spring to mind as synths with good programming and good non-VA sounds.

    All of those, plus a few more (iDensity and the like), though PPG doesn't really do it for me (Nave is so much better). I will definitely buy the Wave Station when that finally arrives.

    If you really want a Korg synth specifically for some reason, maybe wait for iWavestation? Deep programming, distinctly different sonically from your listed VAs.

    The only reason would be either because it has a distinct sound (due to the Korg filters) which is worth having. Or because it's interface leads to creative possibilities. Which I find is the case with iVCS3.

    And the only reason I'm considering it at the moment is because of the sale.

  • edited November 2016

    ODDYSSEi, iM1 have the best midi among the Korgs, Gadget is also well sorted for midi, and a clever way to get a variety of synth types, though the best stuff is the IAPs which lead you back to ODDYSSEi, iM1. iM1 might not be considered conventional synth programming, but sound design can be very interesting given layering possibilities along with the parameters provided...you may also enjoy the multitimbrality

    my solve here as usual is get em all one by one

  • @cian said:
    The only reason would be either because it has a distinct sound (due to the Korg filters) which is worth having.

    Sounds like iMS-20 will bring the joy. I down own the Oddysei so I didn't vote but that's not really a Korg filter. The iMS-20 patch panel opens many interesting synthesis options. Side bonus if you happen to own one: the MS-20 MIDI Controller made for the Legacy Collection works perfectly with the iOS app as well, including the patch panel.

  • Oddy. Then iMS-20

  • iM1 For $14.99 and the 2 $2.99 IAP you get 3300 sounds and 34 cards. There is no deal like this on any iOS synth I'm aware of. You get very few presets with the others. Odyssei comes with 100 presets, and two other sets of 100 are $4.99 each.

    It is a combination of samples and standard synthesis. Really fun to program. It's all about layering and combining. Want the sound of a violin with the attack of a hammer? It's really easy.
    You can either make 8 components to its sounds, or It can be used as an 8-part multitimbral sound module.

    It doesn't matter if you don't like the sound of the original M1. The iM1 has resonant filters, which the M1 didn't, so it can make the kind of filter sweeps that the original could only do through samples.

    And like Odyssei, iM1 also gives you a bonus Gadget.

    Hell, if you're going to buy only one Korg synth, why not get Gadget for the same price as Odyssei and have 15 synths plus a lot more?

  • I know iM1 isn't like the ARP or iMS-20, they're more analog flavored, but I broke this morning and bought iM1. I've long wanted it but with all my other synths I just couldn't get behind the $30 price. But I felt F-It this AM & went for it, and it is incredibly cool. It's like some of the others I have in it's sheer versatility (PCM, FM sounds w/ digital versions of old school synths,etc), like SynthMaster with its wide selection.

    But it's got its own deal going on, the "Korg" sound is certainly there and for $15 for the app & $6 for both IAP cards you get a hell of a lot of sounds for $21. Plus the kyoss pads, the ability to save tons of presets, it is just a complete, old school 90's digital keyboard workstation o the iPad. Very cool.

    To me, with all the apps I have take into account, iM1 is the top of the "digital" synth heap so far and the other new addition I got a few days ago, Moogs Model 15 is the "analog" synth top of the heap.

    Very cool sale weekend and hope everyone got to get a few apps that they always wanted but held off on...

  • Korg is clearly at the forefront in ios. Something for everybody. Options are good. Personally i keep trying to want im1, since i have everything other than that and kamata for gadget, the desert island ios experience, but everytime i read something positive i look up a video review and am completely put off. Taste, of course, is subjective, so it's great it's out there, however i don't understand if they were going to go a rompler route why not triton or kronos. Something current. For my tastes if i want something that is not a synth i want the most realism available, which is getting better and better. For example gladstone and madrid are phenomenal, way better than the last workstation i had, the triton. Some of my older modules, the proteus 2000 and others are just collecting dust at this time.

  • I voted for the Oddy - but curious that you said you wanted something different to the good analogue modellers that you already have - and then gave a choice of three analogue modelled synths!

  • Im1 is just downright incredible. That's my vote.

  • @vpich said:
    Taste, of course, is subjective, so it's great it's out there, however i don't understand if they were going to go a rompler route why not triton or kronos. Something current.

    My guess is because the hardware M1 has sold many X's more units than either of the other two. The M1 was the most logical choice as it was the most familiar to the largest group of potential buyers. Just a marketing decision.

  • Wow, I don't have iM1..I didn't know it was that great .. I guess I'm gonna buy it now .Thanks guys

  • iM1 has good MIDI, including port selection, and so does Gadget. Even down to different ports per track. In the process it brings good MIDI to the IAP upsells like Module and ODESSYi. The older non -gadgetable synths, not so pretty.

  • @amarok said:

    @vpich said:
    Taste, of course, is subjective, so it's great it's out there, however i don't understand if they were going to go a rompler route why not triton or kronos. Something current.

    My guess is because the hardware M1 has sold many X's more units than either of the other two. [snip]

    Really? I know the M1 took over for the DX7 as the must-have synth for a few years but I would have thought the Triton (and its iterations) ultimately sold more units.

  • The M1 is 'classic' Sample & Synthesis. Take a few of the rom-factory samples treat them with Pitch, Amp & Filter with envelopes add some modulation and pass thru some effects.

    Only downside is, no user samples...

    Since I'm Gadget addict, my vote goes for iM1 and ODYSSEi. I do hope iMS-20, iPolysix and iElectribe will get a 'Gadget treatmet' at some point in time.

    iWavestation will most likely not have Gadget integration from day one but after listening to the pod-cast mentioned above Gadget support is most likely to come in a future update.

    Who knows maybe iWavestation will be Korgs first AUv3 :D

  • edited November 2016

    Here's an ARP ARP ODYSSEi demo by Katsunori UJIIE which just showed up on my subscription list.
    https://youtu.be/FezfWejUxcM

  • edited November 2016

    A difficult choice, particularly as you want decent MIDI implementation, worth noting is that none of the 3 will sync to MIDI clock, but do work well with Korg Controllers....not so good on the IAA or virtual MIDI front for iMS-20 and iPolysix, they both can be a little unstable at times, suffering from corrupted audio stream and stuck notes.

    I own and love the sound of all 3 and really wish that the iMS20 and iPolysix could get an overhaul to bring them more up to date on the stability front.

    As others have said, If you don't own Gadget...there are a lot worse decisions you could make than to buy that.

    I voted for iMS-20, because it has a dedicated controller - if you can find one

  • @syrupcore said:

    @amarok said:

    >

    My guess is because the hardware M1 has sold many X's more units than either of the other two. [snip]

    Really? I know the M1 took over for the DX7 as the must-have synth for a few years but I would have thought the Triton (and its iterations) ultimately sold more units.

    The m1's reign slowed down right when i bought my first keyboard, the 01/wfd. At the time i was 15 or 16 and way fortunate. M1 piano was overused on most everything around me (grew up in the dominican republic and it was THE merengue and salsa piano sound.

    But i guess what korf is doing is cashing in on every time period in it's heritage.

    Can wait for the volca apps

  • As much as I love Gadget, I would start with iM-1 because it's only a fantastic sounding synth, without all the synced up multitrack magic that gadget uses.

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