How do you use Audio Unit Extensions?

[Deleted User]

@Sebastian said: So SoundPrism instead of an on screen keyboard would be acceptable?

Interesting question.
I do different things on them.
On a keyboard (real or virtual) I play these notes,
in soundprism,I don't care, I play "random" notes from scale.

[Deleted User]

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Sebastian

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

Sebastian

@ExAsperis99 said:

@Lacm1993 said:

@Sebastian said:

So SoundPrism instead of an on screen keyboard would be acceptable?

Well... I really don't like soundprism way of working. I would prefer a virtual keyboard instead of something soundprism-like for audiobus 3.

Maybe as option instead of a replacement.

I would say that's a huge drawback for an app like AUM, the lack of drum pads. As long as we're making Christmas lists, I'd like an onscreen piano keyboard, a set of MPC-style drum pads, and a SoundPrism-like chord pad. If you're asking.

That's not really a christmas list, that's more of a Audiobus 3.1 update wishlist.

[Deleted User]

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

For my use, I need the keyboard and AUX UI on my iPad screen at the same time. I want to be able to run multiple AUx and switch between them on the fly. I want to change levels of each AUx easily and get access to the AUx major parameters to change while playing a keyboard on screen. Hopefully my only off screen apps are doing recording and have easily reachable transport controls on screen.

[Deleted User]

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

For my use, I need the keyboard and AUX UI on my iPad screen at the same time. I want to be able to run multiple AUx and switch between them on the fly. I want to change levels of each AUx easily and get access to the AUx major parameters to change while playing a keyboard on screen. Hopefully my only off screen apps are doing recording and have easily reachable transport controls on screen.

Basically I use my iPad like an ultraportable workstation keyboard.

Sebastian

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

For my use, I need the keyboard and AUX UI on my iPad screen at the same time. I want to be able to run multiple AUx and switch between them on the fly. I want to change levels of each AUx easily and get access to the AUx major parameters to change while playing a keyboard on screen. Hopefully my only off screen apps are doing recording and have easily reachable transport controls on screen.

Basically I use my iPad like an ultraportable workstation keyboard.

And you actually use it while on the go? Like during breaks at work or while travelling? Or are you also using it like that in your home studio?

[Deleted User]

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

For my use, I need the keyboard and AUX UI on my iPad screen at the same time. I want to be able to run multiple AUx and switch between them on the fly. I want to change levels of each AUx easily and get access to the AUx major parameters to change while playing a keyboard on screen. Hopefully my only off screen apps are doing recording and have easily reachable transport controls on screen.

Basically I use my iPad like an ultraportable workstation keyboard.

And you actually use it while on the go? Like during breaks at work or while travelling? Or are you also using it like that in your home studio?

I use it around the house when I can't have time with my studio monitors on. I even take it in the car when my wife drives. Yeah pretty much don't go many places without my iPad there. Hooked it up at friends houses. It's a well travelled iPad.

[Deleted User]

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:
So from what I hear nobody is using the built in midi keyboard. Instead you're always triggering the AUX via other means (modstep, external keyboard, other apps, piano roll in cubasis).

I use the built in keyboard all the time in AUM and Auria Pro. Yes I would prefer an Animoog like built in keyboard with control of the AU midi parameters, but without a built in keyboard an app is useless to me most of the time.

Even if you could trigger it from another app while the AUX UI ist not on the same screen?

For my use, I need the keyboard and AUX UI on my iPad screen at the same time. I want to be able to run multiple AUx and switch between them on the fly. I want to change levels of each AUx easily and get access to the AUx major parameters to change while playing a keyboard on screen. Hopefully my only off screen apps are doing recording and have easily reachable transport controls on screen.

Basically I use my iPad like an ultraportable workstation keyboard.

And you actually use it while on the go? Like during breaks at work or while travelling? Or are you also using it like that in your home studio?

I use it around the house when I can't have time with my studio monitors on. I even take it in the car when my wife drives. Yeah pretty much don't go many places without my iPad there. Hooked it up at friends houses. It's a well travelled iPad.

I've just lost my old house anyway, so I pretty much use it alone now without any other device except for headphones or my monitor speakers.

JonLewis

I use onscreen keyboards all the time. I work mostly on iphone; i wish there was an iPhone DAW or (AUM-like gobetween) which offered the onscreen controller choices MTS does on iPad: keyboard OR fretboard. I like using both types of input within one project. Fretboard style accesses my well-seasoned guitarist brain, keyboard style accesses my 'wish I'd studied harmony so I knew what this chord I just played is called' brain.

Using iFretless to send MIDI into Music Studio or Gadget is about the most joyful setup I've had on my iPhone, but iFretless has to be killed and restarted so frequently whenever I hop between apps.

gonekrazy3000

I carry a usb3 CCk, a usb hub and 2 keith Mcmillen Kboards. Sometimes i also carry a Launchcontrol XL.
I Use thumb-jam to intercept the midi from the Kboards and scale lock it (unless I'm in the mood to just jam and have no idea what scales i'm using), spit out the processed midi into Modstep that then sends it to AU's hosted in AUM. since Thumbjam can send out processed midi into multiple channels
i sometimes send 1 k-boards midi into StepPolyArp and then send it to modstep for recording the midi.
sometimes i get thumbjam to use its own ARPs. so it depends on time to time. i can say this
though. I NEVER use Aum's virtual keyboard. i have my own default project i load in AUM that has
my Launchcontrol XL already mapped to the channels and effect sends so i might not even look at aum for hrs on end. And yes. this setup is always with me. if i'm at a coffee shop i might be making music lol. Or even at a shack on the beach.

ExAsperis99

@Sebastian said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@Lacm1993 said:

@Sebastian said:

So SoundPrism instead of an on screen keyboard would be acceptable?

Well... I really don't like soundprism way of working. I would prefer a virtual keyboard instead of something soundprism-like for audiobus 3.

Maybe as option instead of a replacement.

I would say that's a huge drawback for an app like AUM, the lack of drum pads. As long as we're making Christmas lists, I'd like an onscreen piano keyboard, a set of MPC-style drum pads, and a SoundPrism-like chord pad. If you're asking.

That's not really a christmas list, that's more of a Audiobus 3.1 update wishlist.

Wow. Sounds good.

Nkersov

Mostly in AUM and Cubasis, sometimes Auria Pro, as effects. Also in AUM as multiple instances of Ruismaker and Phasemaker.

[Deleted User]

Besides, if you can choose which AUx to use the onboard keyboard with, you have another separate set of keys with external ones - very handy.

lovadamusic

I don’t like onscreen keyboards and try to avoid them unless I’m just testing or tweaking a sound. They’re either so tiny, or I can’t seem to get my fingers at the right angle. I use a little external MIDI keyboard if I have a choice. I’m not really that “mobile.” To me mobile is any place around the house I feel like sitting, or in a motel room, or something like that. If I don’t have an external controller, I also like playing with GeoShred, GarageBand fretted instruments, ThumbJam, iFretless apps, or some of the iOS guitar apps.

[Deleted User]

Hm, on screen keyboards are for 2 or 3 finger stuff,
I find it almost impossible to play cords.

2 octave keyboards real or virtual are very limited.
You can't play the simplest stuff like octaves on left hand and melody on right ...

I was wondering why my stuff sounded so thin,
it was the god damned 2 octave keyboard.

Hm, all that scaled stuff is nice,
but somehow I need all those "wrong" and jazzy sounding notes.
It creates tension, sometimes "wrong" is exactly right.

adamdma

In every possible way till it says AUCH!

Samu

I use my AUv3's with a host such as Cubasis, ModSTEP or AUM...

philowerx

@brambos > @Sebastian said:

So you guys don't even adjust the sound that way but you adjust it while a midi loop is playing or while you're using the external midi controller?

I use the keyboard in AUM to control AUs. It's nice to have multiple AU windows open simultaneously within AUM to dial in instrument and effects parameter changes.

[Deleted User]

I use AU in AUM mostly and use them as effects as much as anything else. I like to sequence them with various MIDI apps. Often like to create mega synths using several AU and then play with a keyboard. End up using MIDI automation to control the AU parameters exposed. Being able to save the AU settings as a file in AUM makes this very practical for loading the setup again. I do like to use the SoundPrism apps to send the different parts to different AU apps in the mega AU synth setup and use Fugue Machine in a similar way.

Being able to have a mega synth going using a looping MIDI track often with semi-random output (e.g. Different Drummer) can become a backing track over which I'll play a solo instrument.

I use the built in AUM keyboard primarily for trouble shooting purposes only.

Flexinoodle

Was using modstep, but its built in AU support is not working out (doesnt reload with saved settings)

Will

I use on screen keyboards when I'm testing something out or if I'm on the go which might mean at a cafe, on the bus or in bed.

On screen keyboards mostly suck for playing music. If I'm going to use the screen for "playing" (vs entering notes or testing) it should look/work like Animoog, ThumbJam or SoundPrism.

Will

Is it possible to infer from this thread's creation, without need for deep disappointment, that some iteration of AB3 might include the ability to host AUs? Like, multiple AB slots, multiple AU instances? With all of the hinted at MIDI routing and audio mixing goodness?

[Deleted User]

^^