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Tanvas - Electrostatic Touchscreens, the revolution

This technology just got a major showcase at the CES, i was actually anticipating it for quite some time. This technology will revolutionize music production on touchscreens, let's hope that Apple just buys the company and it actually works well.

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  • thank you for the link. At first I didn't expect much from this haptic feedback thing for touchscreens, but thinking about it, this could be something. Touchscreens with pressure sensitivity and feedback ... surely better than what we have now.

  • That does seem to be a very innovative technology that could benefit music apps tremendously. Having different textures would enable apps to be played without having to look at the screen and adds a tactile experience more similar to traditional instruments and hardware. If this also applies to being able to sense pressure levels as well, it'd be a wealth of new input for creating music too.

  • Well, if this isn't proof we're living in the future, I don't know what is, lol.

  • Amazing world we live in.

  • Let's not hope Apple buy it because that would limit what it could be and what other companies, devices, OS etc. could make with it!
    This technology should be for everyone and not for a single brand!!

  • I guess the next quite obvious step is to use image/video-analysis to make it possible to touch'n'feel the 'content' :D

  • @Samu said:
    I guess the next quite obvious step is to use image/video-analysis to make it possible to touch'n'feel the 'content' :D

    I see you think like a businessman, maximizing the profit of this technology :D

    Would be interesting, if this would be possible to combine it with the already existing "force touch" 3D touch technology for Seaboard-like expression.

    @Cib said:
    Let's not hope Apple buy it because that would limit what it could be and what other companies, devices, OS etc. could make with it!
    This technology should be for everyone and not for a single brand!!

    Depending on how well it works, the company would actually be better off not selling but licensing. I just don't see apple doing it, which could lead to severe fragmentation. I haven't thought this through, my initial wish was just for apple to buy it, deploy it, so it would be available to us in the existing infrastructure as fast as possible...

  • It would be foolish if Apple was not interested in the technology.
    I mean imagine what it could do for accessibility?

    A 'screen'(phone, watch or even the 'touch bar') that can generate braille on-screen that could be 'felt' instead of using voice-over. This would be huge!

  • @Samu said:
    It would be foolish if Apple was not interested in the technology.
    I mean imagine what it could do for accessibility?

    A 'screen'(phone, watch or even the 'touch bar') that can generate braille on-screen that could be 'felt' instead of using voice-over. This would be huge!

    It will revolutionize the whole IT-industry with ramifications we can't even think about yet. Always depending on how well it actually works of course. But if it does, nothing will stay the same. Computers won't be the same, we would see a huge increase in surface-like PCs with virtual keyboards etc.

  • I just had a thought. If Steve Jobs were still alive, the iPad Pro line would most likely have this tech already, lol.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I just had a thought. If Steve Jobs were still alive, the iPad Pro line would most likely have this tech already, lol.

    That is very possible. Everyone knows, one of the biggest weaknesses of current touchscreens is the lack of haptic feedback. He might have invested significant resources to find solutions like this. One thing is sure, if he was still alive, there wouldn't be a "Stylus" for the iPad Pro line.

  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I just had a thought. If Steve Jobs were still alive, the iPad Pro line would most likely have this tech already, lol.

    That is very possible. Everyone knows, one of the biggest weaknesses of current touchscreens is the lack of haptic feedback. He might have invested significant resources to find solutions like this. One thing is sure, if he was still alive, there wouldn't be a "Stylus" for the iPad Pro line.

    True, but then again, the Apple Pencil is a sorely needed item for those of us who love to make art on our iPads. I dabble in it on the side for possible cover art, both abstract and somewhat realistic.

  • edited January 2017

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I just had a thought. If Steve Jobs were still alive, the iPad Pro line would most likely have this tech already, lol.

    That is very possible. Everyone knows, one of the biggest weaknesses of current touchscreens is the lack of haptic feedback. He might have invested significant resources to find solutions like this. One thing is sure, if he was still alive, there wouldn't be a "Stylus" for the iPad Pro line.

    True, but then again, the Apple Pencil is a sorely needed item for those of us who love to make art on our iPads. I dabble in it on the side for possible cover art, both abstract and somewhat realistic.

    That's great, and maybe i am wrong on this one. Jobs always said, a stylus shouldn't be necessary. An optional stylus is a whole nother thing, and the technology evolved dramatically. Handwriting is another application, a form of communication that get's lost today. In these days i write so rarely, that it always feels weird when i do.

    Input methods are gonna change dramatically over the next few years, and the electrostatic touchscreen is a gigantic step, especially for music. A moog Model 15 where you can actually feel the cables and knobs? crazy!

  • Every piece of technology seems to have a porn application or eventually turn into one. This is no different. Whoa.

  • Or a sensual sax app where you can feel the sex knob...

  • I read about different experiences about this from "amazing" to "still touching just a flat screen" but this will be for sure a very interesting thing for multi-touch input (and output in this case) in the future and it will evolve. Maybe we see such tech even combined with VR in the future!
    An iPad Pro (or any other multi-touch device like a surface studio etc.) with 3D touch plus a kind of real haptic feedback would be great for sure.
    It won´t replace real keys for sure but could improve the need to starring all the time on the screen in a performence.
    What i miss is more really audio itself related experiences like some of the newer binaural plug-in´s (like Dust) f.e. or "real" binaural recordings compared to "stereo". Now i wished everything would be recorded binaural since it´s just so much more immersive and "real".
    It´s almost like i missed something all the time when i heard these things the first time....it´s like adding another layer or dimension on top of a 2 dimension sound.
    Would be great if some smart iOS developer start also the binaural experience for mobile users!

  • As great as it sounds in theory I think it must be pretty limited. It could never really feel like you are actually grabbing something 3 dimensional. It's still limited to that flat glass surface and will only be felt when actually touching the glass. So I don't expect this to be the huge leap forward that some seem to look forward to. But what do I know, I'd be glad to be proven wrong :smile:

  • I agree. How often, outside of accessibility features for those with sight challenges, to feel the surface of something that you can see?

  • It will be still some time before we have a holo-deck but it's a evolving process!
    I'm sure with the right tech our brain can imagine everything, even if it's not real. Smell something, feel something, see something, hear something, taste something....and the open the sixth sense....
    Matrix anyone? :#
    I mean i would be also a bit scared for things manipulating my brain but if i could stand in front of a super nova while playing some binaural synths which i can feel while in my living room....why not?!
    These days it's getting harder to escape the reality or making holiday etc. and those tech will be the future for entertainment.
    It's all Sci-Fi still but i think in 20 years or so we might see things like total recall growing.
    If that's good for us.....that is another thing.

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