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MusicIO + tonestack + Logic - HELP!
Hi,
I want to use my hardware preamp I have connected through my audio interface to Logic Pro X. Now I want to take this clean guitar signal and send it to Tonestack( or any other guitar effect app in my Ipad) and feedback again Logic Pro with the guitar with all the effects.
I have MusicIO installed but I don't really find my way to make it work. Anyone has the clue how to do it?
Thanks in advance!
Comments
Honestly, I think you'll find the latency to be too much. Basically too many roundtrips. It works alright with "one to the other", but not "from A to B and to A again". Just my humble opinion. It is the same with any/all app solutions (MusicIO, StudioMux, Audreio etc). You'd need an iConnectivity device.
Otherwise, I did this video some time ago for how to set up ipad vs Logic via MusicIO. Basically you need to send the output of a channel to a bus, that bus gets sent to iPad which returns a result. It is easier to explain if you watch the video.
Hi Hellquist,
Your video was already part of my Markers even before your comment!
This video is great and works well when the Ipad is the sound module ( let's say a synth), but how do you start when the initial sound comes from the computer? In that case in Music IO app in the Ipad you don't have an instrument where the sound comes from, just an effect.
I saw this video that with Studiomux was possible
but still dont see the way with MusicIO. How would you do it?
The current alternative is to forget about the hardware preamp and record from Alesis IO dock but it's a pity because the hardware preamp is a kind of good one.
Hmm. I was thinking to myself "that should be easy!" and just to confirm this before replying I tested. I also failed. So I looked at their web site and found a couple of videos, one of which handles "using MusicIO as an effects slot unit", however it was for Ableton Live, but I was thinking it'd give me some clue to what I was doing wrong.
Well, I couldn't get it to work in Ableton Live either, despite the video, and despite doing every little thing that Dan in the video () is doing. All I got was silence. As soon as I disable MusicIO (in either Logic or Ableton) the audio came back. When I switched it on it got silent (in both DAWs).
This could be one of those "phone a friend" moments, so I'm pinging @SecretBaseDesign (one of the 3 devs behind MusicIO).
Hey, I'm here!
Just took a look -- and it looks like I missed a test case. If you're running only an effects app, and don't have any synth apps on the track (on the iPad), audio is not sent through. Quick thing to try -- add a synth app to the track (even if you're not using it to generate audio).
So, with Logic -- I've got the plug-in on a synth track, but you could also have this be the guitar input. The "FX Loop" is toggled on in the plug-in, and it's sending audio over the first musicIO channel out to my iPad. I've got Animoog inserted onto that channel, but it's not generating any sound. I've got Flying Haggis in the effects slot on the iPad. The audio comes back in to the plug, and out the bottom of the Logic track. For recording, you'll want to send the bus output of that track to the input of a second track (where you'll actually record).
Try inserting a synth app -- let me know if it doesn't work. Sending audio out to the iPad, through an effects app, and back to the desktop is not ideal -- it's possible, but if you can plug the guitar directly into the iPad, and monitor the audio from the iPad, the latency will be a heck of a lot lower.
I had an app called Remote Recorder, which would let you catch the audio on the iPad, and send the finished file over WiFi (with recording triggered by MIDI, so that the length and timing of the recording made it easy to drop the WAV file in). IMO, that was a pretty good solution, but both of the people who bought the app didn't seem to understand how it worked .
Hi
Tried what you suggested but didnt work.
I created an audio track in logic, output to bus 10 and inserting as effect Music Io. Music IO was with FX loop activated having Model 15 as synth in the "sound from" and Jamup pro as effect.
I create a second audio track having bus 10 as input.
No sound reaches jamup pro input ( therefore nothing can return). Could you please further check on your side ?
Latency would not be an issue as I would probably use this root to make a reamping of clean guitar signals I would have in Logic.
Your help would be highly appreciated.