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  • wimwim
    edited February 2017

    @Alex fox said:

    Yes, I think we're quite likely to implement midi out to keep it simple. We can always expand if need be.

    Nice! That would truly make this a breakthrough app. I think it's fabulous, but I can't see that I'll get much use out of it other than enjoying the hell out of it if limited only to its own sounds. As a controller, though, I could see this becoming the center of so much of what I do. (You should make MIDI Out an IAP in my opinion. Would gladly pay for it.)

    Congrats on a really, really fine app!

  • @wim said:

    @Alex fox said:

    Yes, I think we're quite likely to implement midi out to keep it simple. We can always expand if need be.

    Nice! That would truly make this a breakthrough app. I think it's fabulous, but I can't see that I'll get much use out of it other than enjoying the hell out of it if limited only to its own sounds. As a controller, though, I could see this becoming the center of so much of what I do.

    Congrats on a really, really fine app!

    +1 - Actually, I think midi out might be preferable over sample import (though both would be nice)

  • This right here is why I love music making on iOS. Smaller developer puts out something well designed and unique seemingly without any fanfare, the community gets behind it and it (hopefully) snowballs to the benefit of all.

    Big developer hype and whatnot is entertaining but I find this much more satisfying.

    And, yes, make MIDI Out an IAP.

  • edited February 2017

    @kobamoto said:
    +1000 have to agree with Wim on that, guess that answers the midi out question, but also I'd like to know does it currently have fx automation?

    Yes, there are these "cells" called morph. You can automate instruments and channels. But since there's no linear composition (i love it) you don't simply draw automation like in gadget. It's less streamlined, more akin to modulation routing, which i wouldn't mind if the destination was a list or something, as opposed to scrolling thru the channel list.

    And you should probably know you have to trigger the so called animation by touching the morph cell.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @kobamoto said:
    +1000 have to agree with Wim on that, guess that answers the midi out question, but also I'd like to know does it currently have fx automation?

    Yes, there are these "cells" called morph. You can automate instruments and channels. But since there's no linear composition (i love it) you don't simply draw automation like in gadget. It's less streamlined, more akin to modulation routing, which i wouldn't mind if the destination was a list or something, as opposed to scrolling thru the channel list.

    ok, thanks.... looks like this app is going to turn out to be a hit with the sample audio crowd and a hit with the midi crowd as well as the both crowd.... well done I'm so looking forward to it.

  • Really looking forward to Link, midi out and sample import. Although I would love to drive other apps with it, having the ability to stay inside and compose with great samples its a plus big time!!

  • edited February 2017

    I have been following this for years now. In the past I tried to get something like this using Lemur and another app for the sounds, beat maker was one. But getting the midi and transport working was always a nightmare.

    Being able to design the surface and the music in one app is awesome. I use a lot of filters so I can have one for each track, and have the triggers on screen at the same time which is perfect for me.

  • I'm sure I saw gating fx for the dial..but cannot find it now lol

    Anyone else see it??

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    That's not djing though...if you add loopers then that defeats the purpose..dj stands for disk jockey lol...using loops would mean loop jockey right?

  • @Love3quency said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    That's not djing though...if you add loopers then that defeats the purpose..dj stands for disk jockey lol...using loops would mean loop jockey right?

    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

    Indeed. I'm not a "DJ" by any stretch but I would love this sort of feature! If imagine you'd have to give up some screen real estate to allow two surfaces at one time. Or maybe a scrollable big surface that allows you to see part of one "song" and part of another?

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Love3quency said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    That's not djing though...if you add loopers then that defeats the purpose..dj stands for disk jockey lol...using loops would mean loop jockey right?

    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Love3quency said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    5 The ability to 'DJ mix' between one surface to another. Can you imagine? You could have people doing 1 hour sets!

    That's not djing though...if you add loopers then that defeats the purpose..dj stands for disk jockey lol...using loops would mean loop jockey right?

    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

    The latest retronyms app does that between two scenes but it's weird

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

    Indeed. I'm not a "DJ" by any stretch but I would love this sort of feature! If imagine you'd have to give up some screen real estate to allow two surfaces at one time. Or maybe a scrollable big surface that allows you to see part of one "song" and part of another?

    Unless the dev adds a cross fader then one could make two small scenes within a scene kind of and use the fader to mix em up??

  • "I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces"

    How about tabbed surfaces ... So you can load up multiple and switch between them ?

  • @w3epy said:
    "I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces"

    How about tabbed surfaces ... So you can load up multiple and switch between them ?

    With a selectable amount of crossfade? Now there's a thought :+1:

  • Have a crossfader! :)

  • @Vecoto said:
    Have a crossfader! :)

    cool! who knew you could overlap dials!!

    this app is very fun and rewarding! Great job. I always enjoyed playing around with Elastic Drums JAM screen, and I find this similar to use, only even better because you can use all the dials and morphs, etc for both synths and drums. Much fun now - and midi out and/or sample import (and LINK or course) will make this so much better!

  • @wim said:

    @InfoCheck said:

    @wim said:

    @InfoCheck said:
    @Alex fox An AU host version of KRFT so you wouldn't be limited by the instruments available in KRFT yet you'd be able to leverage its controls and GUI is my wish.

    KRFT could send the following to the AU apps: Notes, CC messages, preset changes. Being able to sequence all of these is desirable.

    You'd open up the AU app, set controls up and then close it so it's just played via the KRFT surface controls. XY pads where you select which parameters and/or their inverse for each axis would be essential to maximize the potential. A third axis for pressure sensitivity on devices (recent phones) which support this would round things off.

    AU effect apps could also be used to alter the built in sounds of KRFT too.

    On the phone, the AU host app version of KRFT could really give people an opportunity to create more involved setups that can be easily played.

    I think IAA apps are too inconsistent in how they're implemented to create a reliable user experience when hosted in KRFT versus hosting AU apps.

    Being able to set different controls to receive MIDI input to control the KRFT instrument or AU host app would allow for even more options. The AUM MIDI routing matrix could be a starting point. MIDI in/out would be really great especially if you could assign the output from individual controls to different MIDI destinations.

    It would be especially nice with Link to get everything in sync.

    Rather than bog the whole thing down as a host at all (look what happened to ModStep) I'd rather see simply Midi-Out added. This is a fabulous composition and performance tool! I have other fabulous hosts that are very good at what they do, but sap my creativity. I'm happy to deal with the plumbing to get the Midi where it needs to go (particularly if Audiobus 3 is what I hope it is) rather than have them lose focus going down the rat-hole of iOS hosting.

    Being an AU host wouldn't mean you'd be bogging down the whole app and you would not have to use any AU apps in your setup if you didn't want to.

    I was referring to bogging down the developers, not the app. It's a rathole. This is a breakthrough app, as Modstep was. Look how far has it evolved since trying to become a host, how stable is it? OK, its gotten fantastically better of late, but at what cost in developer effort? And its stability problems have not all been with IAA, they have been with AU hosting as well.

    Using AUM as an AU host is a relatively easy setup with minimal problems.

    Exactly. Why re-invent the wheel?

    I think it'd certainly be possible to use KRFT as a MIDI controller but then you'd have to figure out how to sync with other apps which is a not a problem at all with an AU app being hosted.

    Hummm ... Midi clock? Link? I've heard those technologies are involved some way in synchronizing apps. Don't take my word on that one though.

    AU host setups also have the advantage that all of your setups will easily be recalled from project.

    True, but limiting. I would use this to control non-AU apps, Gadget, Auria, Cubasis, AUM, hardware synths, other iDevices, and PC DAWs. I like it so much that I can see it becoming my main jamming and compositional tool.

    I respect your view on it, but for me I hope that's not a road they try to go down.

    I would have no problem if the developer decided to have three different apps:

    MIDI controller
    AU Host App (this option requires most development resources)
    Current App

    There should be a way to share surfaces between these variants of the app so you could preserve your notes and controls then simply link them up to Instruments, AU apps, or MIDI control settings. The GUI would be the same for all the KRFT apps, you'd just have different settings and they'd all have the ability to:

    Be used in an IAA host
    Link support
    Send/receive MIDI clock for sync with external hardware or apps.

    These options would allow for maximum flexibility while allowing you to use the KRFT GUI in a wide variety of setups and using the version(s) of KRFT that appeal to you.

    I think limiting the hosting to AU apps and excluding IAA apps from this structure will enable the developers to maintain the app more easily since the interface between the AU host and AU apps is standardized.

    midiSTEPs has the ability to host AU apps and send MIDI notes to them all from within the app which I enjoy. KRFT offers a playable setup which goes way beyond just sequencing and patterns so it'd be nice to have a setup where there is no third app needed for creating a playable surface using whatever instruments I'd want. I prefer the direct hosting of AU apps in KRFT versus using MIDI control while they're hosted in an app like AUM because I can create my surface in KRFT using whatever instruments I want and forget it. I won't have to remember which surfaces in KRFT correspond to which projects in AUM, it will require fewer resources and app switching plus I could easily clone surfaces in KRFT.

    To control AU app parameters in AUM you have to send the MIDI to AUM's MIDI Control port which is shared by all of the AU apps hosted in AUM. Different AU apps or instances of the same AU app will need to be setup to avoid any conflicts which can be tedious and limiting. With a KRFT AU host there'd be a one to one correspondence between a surface control and the AU app instance it's controlling.

    People who want to use IAA apps in their setups could use the MIDI version to control them in IAA host app setups (AUM, DAWs). I see no significant advantage to direct IAA hosting in KRFT versus MIDI control.

    Rolling all of the versions into one app would be okay for me, but I can see how many people would find the added settings and navigating through them all would transform the current experience into a complex and confusing one plus it'd be more difficult to maintain as a change in any of the protocols would mean an update to the app whereas the separate apps would be limited to changes specific to them.

  • edited February 2017

    @Halftone said:

    @Vecoto said:
    Have a crossfader! :)

    cool! who knew you could overlap dials!!

    this app is very fun and rewarding! Great job. I always enjoyed playing around with Elastic Drums JAM screen, and I find this similar to use, only even better because you can use all the dials and morphs, etc for both synths and drums. Much fun now - and midi out and/or sample import (and LINK or course) will make this so much better!

    Thanks! I'm not even sure if overlapping these controls is intended by the developers, but it works very nicely indeed, so it probably is. I love the freedom this app provides, even in its current early release.

  • @Vecoto said:
    Have a crossfader! :)

    Bravo!

  • @Vecoto said:
    Have a crossfader! :)

    Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

  • Awesome stuff @Vecoto -- you nailed it.

    I'm the other dev on KRFT. We're both based in London and really excited that you guys are really getting deep into the features we've built into it.

    We're interested in some of the features you're requesting - i.e. MIDI and AU unit intergration. We wanted to know if there was any of you willing to meet up in London to explain in more depth. Hit me up if you're interested!

  • Wow, that would be so awesome if I was there in London!

    Hey, maybe you guys can get in touch with Sir Doug at TheSoundTestRoom,
    I believe he is based there in London.

    Another idea I had in mind was maybe you guys could create Surfaces based on say for example rhythm styles and sell them as IAPs.. this could be a good source of continued income for development!

    Like you guys could do some rock rhythm style surfaces with cool Bass, Drum, Fills and Pads tracks all going on and sell these packs of surfaces as IAPs!

    This would also be great for those folks that just wanna hit play and go, and start rocking! I hope this idea makes sense.

    I know there are a lot of guys here that play rock, some Jazz music and so on and so forth, so the sky is limit if you think about it. This is sort of like rhythm styles packs that were sold or are sold for Arranger keyboards, and I know a lot of people bought these to load up in their Arranger keyboards.

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Wow, that would be so awesome if I was there in London!

    Hey, maybe you guys can get in touch with Sir Doug at TheSoundTestRoom,
    I believe he is based there in London.

    I think Doug may be in Cornwall unless he's moved...but there are certainly some folks on the Forum from there or not too far away,....

  • @w3epy i think the ultimate feature would be to record a performance, not as audio, but as realtime gestures of everything on screen which could be played back on screen for further performance tweaking and recording. So you could get the ultimate take while continuing to jam and be able to save as you go along

  • edited February 2017

    @Love3quency said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    I just dream of being able to mix between surfaces/songs like a DJ mixes between records/songs.

    Indeed. I'm not a "DJ" by any stretch but I would love this sort of feature! If imagine you'd have to give up some screen real estate to allow two surfaces at one time. Or maybe a scrollable big surface that allows you to see part of one "song" and part of another?

    Unless the dev adds a cross fader then one could make two small scenes within a scene kind of and use the fader to mix em up??

    I would just be happy to have access to tab or scroll to other surfaces and then start the drums in the next surface, stop them in the previous one etc etc until you have moved to hearing the next surface in its entirety. Then unload the first surface and load in the third one etc etc.

    I guess it might overload the processor though.

    And when it gets Link you'd be able to achieve roughly the same thing with two idevices both running KRFT plugged into a mixer.

  • @db909 - we have these experimental recorder cells which do just that. You hit record on them then play some stuff on the surface - tap to stop and loop. Works pretty neat actually - just needs a bit of testing and tidying.

  • edited February 2017

    Exactly!! Love this idea as you can go back and edit the recorded actions sorta of like having an editable control or automation track separate from the audio track. This would be awesome!!!

    @db909 said:
    @w3epy i think the ultimate feature would be to record a performance, not as audio, but as realtime gestures of everything on screen which could be played back on screen for further performance tweaking and recording. So you could get the ultimate take while continuing to jam and be able to save as you go along

  • @w3epy said:
    @db909 - we have these experimental recorder cells which do just that. You hit record on them then play some stuff on the surface - tap to stop and loop. Works pretty neat actually - just needs a bit of testing and tidying.

    Sounds wonderful! Can't wait

  • @db909 said:
    @w3epy i think the ultimate feature would be to record a performance, not as audio, but as realtime gestures of everything on screen which could be played back on screen for further performance tweaking and recording. So you could get the ultimate take while continuing to jam and be able to save as you go along

    definitely.... so you can edit after the fact

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